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Just got email back from rachel.

 

Dear Mrs Lisa.

This department will file an acknowledgement of service to your claim and it will be allocated to a member of our team who will then write to you in due course.

 

Sigh, thats not what I wanted to hear!

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Posite arrived!!!!! he has been graced with another day!!!!

 

Letter from court!

Claim Issued on 18/06/2007

The court sent it to the defendant by 1st class post on 19th/06/2007

And it will be deemed to be served on the 21/06/2007 (today, so 14days start today)

The defendant has intill 05/07/2007 to reply.

 

so its nice news really :-D

 

But the lady on the fone lied to me! crappy telephone people!!! DOESNT SHE KNOW WHO I AM??? tut!

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Its good that you have had some good news!!!

Tho you wouldnt want to be pooin your pants too much!!!

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Well done Lisa on getting this far. :)

 

I've been following your thread since I joined. Hang in there - I've got my fingers and toes crossed for you.

 

Any news from the DWP? :evil:

 

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Hey deedee, thanks for your support!!!

 

DWP are EVIL...

 

they cant confirm that my documents have arrived today because their postal system in house doesnt work as fast so they are going to ring me when they have recieved the documents!!

 

Fat chance of that happening!!! do they think i came down in the last rain shower (which was about 5mins ago actually) No I will ring them again tomorrow and I will NAG NAG NAG!!

 

DWP actually refer to me as Lisa now as my case has been delt with every posible employee!!!

 

Hows things going for you deedee?

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It's a shame my Mum and brother no longer work at DWP anymore, could have asked them to have a look at your case ;)

 

I'm ok actually. I've been giving lots of help at this thread http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/capital-one/90138-coxey61-capital-one-5.html#post933905. I'm starting to feel like an old timer here even though I've just started out!

 

I've just been offered a new job today which is really great news as I have been unemployed for 4 months! :D :D

 

I've sent my prelim to shAbbey on 11/6/07 and Cr*p One on 16/6/07. Got fob off letter the very next day from shAbbey! I was estatic!

 

I'm undecided about Halifax and maybe I could ask what you would do in the same situation.

 

I have all my statements barring three of them. One of them I don't really need as the end balance on it, is the same as the one after it (I hope that makes sense). The other two I reckon probably have another £150 or so (I could be wrong) worth of charges. I sent an SAR off last week Monday which has been signed for.

 

Do you think I should proceed with the statements I do have. I have already put the figures into a spreadsheet and Haliprats owe me just over £4k including interest. I am delaying starting my claim because I am waiting for information from two statements that may not have any charges on them.

 

What would any of you do??!! I've been trying to decide since last week. :? :(

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hey deedee i'll reply to your thread later, have had a shandy or 3 :-D

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wooooohooooooooooo allycat!!! mines a cider :-D

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Thank you lisa

got a few pain so hopefully it wont be to long now they are not going to start me of until the 6th july 2 wks no way am i waiting that long lol

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WELL DONE ALLEYCAT!!!:D :D :D

 

Can't find your thread so am congratulating you here. Let us know when you have received your cheque.

 

 

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Hi guys, just a quick update, I received my letter of "goodwill gesture offer" of £7732 - what I was asking for so just hanging on in there for the cheque to come now........

 

Couldn't find your thread either... so sorry for the hijack Lisa.....

 

CONGRATULATIONS ALLYCAT!

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No blinkin news over the weekend either!!!

 

Still there is 2mrw!!

 

fingers crossed :-)

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Hang in there Lisa.

 

Hopefully this week coming will bring good news. You know what an optimistic bunch we CAGers are. ;)

 

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Yep. Poor postie!!!

 

he's scared to come at my house I think as I seem to be loitering around the front door when he comes and snatch the post with excitement only to be let down and a slight growl leaves my mouth!!

 

I thik i will explain to poor postie whats going on, he might not feel so intimedated then :-)

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Yeah I hope so deedee. I want lots of good news then I can pay my bills lol!!! and..............might even treat myself ( to what I dont know yet lol)

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good idea ha ha might think you got an obsetion with posties

the way halipratta work anything could happen theres no telling with

them you either win quick or they drag it out lets hope yours is the

quick option:)

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Hi guys.

 

I just sent my Halifax Prelim letter on Friday. No doubt I'm going to have the same amount of "fun" that Lisa has been having.

 

Yes Lisa a quick explanation in the postie's "shell-like" might alleviate any concerns he has about you being a maniac :p

 

deedee x

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am waiting for the postman..............today I have un-scrunched my manic face in a bid to explain my sudden door opening and letter snatching :-)

 

I do hope he appriciates it

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Hi lovely Lisa.

 

I haven't even got as far as you and I'm almost the same. Every post drop is met with an overwhelming sense of disappointment :o :)

 

It's funny that, when things were at their worst I used to dread the postman's arrival but now I don't. :(:D

 

Make sure it's your sexy alluring face you present to him (yeah right - I see the mania coming through from here :) ), so that you don't scare him off!

 

I hope today brings you good news :D

 

BTW - thank you so much for tipping my scales. I'm trying to do everyone's at the moment but have to spread them out. My rep comments will be winging their way over soon.

 

deedee xx

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