Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Well we can't predict what the judge will believe. PE will say that they responded in the deadline and you will say they don't. Nobody can tell what a random DJ will decide. However if you go for an OOC settlement you should still be able to get some money
    • What do you guys think the chances are for her?   She followed the law, they didnt, then they engage in deception, would the judge take kindly to being lied to by these clowns? If we have a case then we should proceed and not allow these blatant dishonest cheaters to succeed 
    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
    • please stop using @username - sends unnecessary alerts to people. everyone that's posted on your thread inc you gets an automatic email alert when someone else posts.  
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Scottish Gas Late Payment Charge


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 6216 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hi everybody,

 

This is my first time on CAG so forgive me if the questions i am going to ask in this posting have already been answered as i have been unable to find the answers while looking through the threads so far.

 

I have had a bill outstanding from Scottish Gas of just over £200 and had already paid £50 of this off it a couple of weeks ago.

 

I had told them at the time that i would be paying off the balance today as i have just been paid and at the time the man at the call centre(which took approx 30 mins to speak to) told me if i didnt pay all then i would be liable to be charged for late payment.

 

Today when i phoned (another 30 mins hanging on the phone!!) i was told the charge was £14 for this late payment! I refused to pay it and paid off the bill i was due.

 

The girl at the call centre said to write to the address at the top of the letter about the charge as she couldnt remove it from the account and she also said it will continue to accrue charges until it was either paid or removed from my account.

 

So, my questions are these:-

 

1. Was i correct in not paying that charge?

2. Is there a standard letter that is on CAG site i can send to Scottish Gas about this charge?

3. Would this be classed as an unlawful charge just as with bank charges?

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice or help anyone can give me and keep up the good work.

 

Its great to see everyone working to stop us all being ripped off with these disgraceful charges! I hope we all continue to spread the word and get them all back!

 

All the best

 

Scott

Link to post
Share on other sites

If you do not pay the bill within 36 days of receipt you get a £10 charge. There is no £14 charge, however there is a £40 charge but this is only levied when a dept rep visits your property.

 

With regards to legality, you should write in demanding a break down of the charge similar to the way in which you would ask from a bank. If they can justify the charge then it would be legal, if not then it would be an unlawful penalty.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for that Gondukin.

 

Since i posted this morning i have received a letter from them which is headed in red large bold type saying URGENT TELEMESSAGE.

 

What on earth is a telemessage??? Is this Scottish Gas way of describing what the rest of us call a letter??!!

 

Its threatens all the usual about warrant to cut off gas etc and fees i would incur and the police may be present when they call.

 

All irrelevant now as i have paid the bill in full now.

 

However, it says at the bottom that they have charged me £14 for the letter. Thats what the girl at the call centre was talking about.

 

£14 FOR A LETTER??? Are they taking the P*** or what??

 

I am assuming that its an unlawful and disproportionate charge?

 

Can someone let me know what their thoughts are and have they had a so called "TELEMESSAGE" like this and what they did about it?

 

Many thanks

 

Scott

Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah already done that and will send registered post tomorrow.

 

Maybe i should charge them for the cost of my time and the registered letter as well as having being on hold for around 30 mins each time i phone them.

 

I wonder how much all that could possibly add up to? Possibly £14.00????:grin:

 

Cheers for the advice gondukin

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...