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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
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    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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AND OF COURSE YOUR AS WELL FENDS. eusa_whistle.gifeusa_whistle.gif

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

Good things come to he who waits

 

 

Its your money taken unlawfully from your account and you have a legal right to claim it back.

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Well folks just reporting the postie has been and still nothing.They have to answer to the judges directions: The defendant shall by 28th May 2007 file and serve a response to the claimant's schedule, stating in respectof each item claimed.

a) Persuant to what contractual provision such charge was made, producing a copy of the contractual document relied upon;

b) Whether such charge is accepted to be a penalty, and if not why not;

c)If such charge is alleged to be a pre-estimate of the defendants loss incurred by the claimants actions (whether or not such action is treated as a breach of contract between the parties), all facts and matters intended to be relied upon as showing that such was a proper estimate of such loss, and all evidence to be abducted at trial as to what the true cost of dealing with the matter was;

d)If such charge is not alleged to be a pre-estimate of the defendant's loss incurred by the claimant's actions then facts and matters intended to be relied upon showing the basis uponwhich the charge was calculated and all evidence to be adduced at trial as to show that the charge was fair and reasonable.

e) Copies of decided cases and other legal matters to be relied upon.

So the torterous wait goes on. They have thrown the Limitations act back at me twice with a cheque for £3, 700 which i have also returned twice.

So they have until and including Monday.

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Story of our lives with this claiming business Parky. STILL WAITING, WAITING WAITING................ Lol xxxx

 

Oh by the way, what size shoe do you take, Lol xxxxxxxxxx

 

Im nosey. Fendy xxxx

And do you like mansions

and yachts and casinos, Lol xxx

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I've worked on a yacht in the South of France. Gone in the casino at Monaco and have worked for peeps who lived in mansions. Shoe size 10. Yes and i am always putting my foot in it. I remember hearing something about the size of feet in relation to your anatomy. :D Did you know John Wayne's shoe size was a 5. He was over 6 feet tall. Your playing Cluedo on me you naughty madaaaam from Oakeeeeeeeee.

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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Cluedo....... me Parky. Nooooooooooooooooooo. Lol Lol.... Yep Im doing my homework...................... cos Im uber nosey. Like you didnt know that already. Shoe size 10 huh, very impressive my friend, Lol

 

Parky, MY HERO...................... Lol xxxxx

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lol fendy! i think parky is some kind of an enigma .

parky its bank holiday monday so they have to answer by tomorrow or saturday!? what are they playing at!? the judge will just throw it out anyway the rate theyre going!

size 10 parky but how tall are you? need to see the size in relation to height! ;)

additions direct-no CCA

marshall ward-no CCA

next-CCA turns up after they have committed offence,(30 days) S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) time!

monument -CCA not signed reported to TS for harrassment 1st letter sent TS are useless

associates visa-no CCA

think there might be a pattern here!?:lol:

GE Money- won

barclaycard-- N1 put into court

capital one - won

NatWest- won

 

never lose sight of your goal!

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Oooooo cheeky, size n all................... Lol Lol Lol xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I bet hes 5foot 11 or 6foot 2. I bet I bet. One or the other......................... I bet, ................. yeah........................ xxxxx Im a shorty bottom. Only five foot four and a half inches...................... but perfectly formed, Lol Lol xxx and as my dear young pop used to say, THEY DONT MAKE DIAMONDS AS BIG AS BRICKS MY LOVE. XXXXXXX

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From reading that it looks like Natwest have no option but to either pay out or explain the exact losses incurred, which they won't want to do.

 

I'd say you're not far from getting your money!

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lol fendy how do you know how big parky is ? ahem! ;)

come on parky tell us ur height! im guessing 5 11!

im 5ft 7 so not quite a shortie pants!

additions direct-no CCA

marshall ward-no CCA

next-CCA turns up after they have committed offence,(30 days) S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) time!

monument -CCA not signed reported to TS for harrassment 1st letter sent TS are useless

associates visa-no CCA

think there might be a pattern here!?:lol:

GE Money- won

barclaycard-- N1 put into court

capital one - won

NatWest- won

 

never lose sight of your goal!

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Deep breath. Cheque winging its way to me for £20,000. After some serious and constructive negotiation over the last 2 days. They have put all 3 claims running at the same time into one settlement. So including the £5,000 they settled last December. The grand total is £25,000. WOW what a fight.

Thank you all the gang out there on this brilliant site. Especially all my close virtual buddies. Fendy, Hedgey, Enaid, Steve4064, Archer, Wendy, PPman and anyone else i have forgot. It feels like being at the Oscars.

THE GOLDEN RULE IS DON'T GIVE UP BECAUSE VICTORY IS OURS.

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

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Enaid you are an early bird like me. Thanks.Iam not going anywhere. Like big brother i'ii be keeping my eye on everyone. :D

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

Good things come to he who waits

 

 

Its your money taken unlawfully from your account and you have a legal right to claim it back.

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ooooooooo parky!!! i CANT believe it! it couldnt have happened to a nicer man! im soooooo pleased for you!

congratulations!!!!!!!!!!

so where u going on holiday!!? :D

additions direct-no CCA

marshall ward-no CCA

next-CCA turns up after they have committed offence,(30 days) S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) time!

monument -CCA not signed reported to TS for harrassment 1st letter sent TS are useless

associates visa-no CCA

think there might be a pattern here!?:lol:

GE Money- won

barclaycard-- N1 put into court

capital one - won

NatWest- won

 

never lose sight of your goal!

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Parkvale

 

Brilliant out-turn, listening to Today Radio 4, John Humphries et al, encapsulating 'complaint v process' the latter key!

 

Hope your experience a good augury in my pursuit; were your final negotiations with the bnak or their lawyers?

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Archer Thanks, Jonesy Cheers. and Mendip hopefully a good "augury" Or omen for the uneducated:D

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

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20 BIG ONES !!

WELL DONE !!

:D :D :D

 

I do hope your going to post the details of the negotiatios on site soon

 

(maybe wait until chq cleared, and all confidentiality clauses scrubbed off)

All opinions and advice I offer are purely my own, and are offered without any liability. If unsure seek the help of a licensed professional

...just because something's in print doesn't mean its true.... just look at you Banks T&C's for example !

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Top result Parky!

 

As for me and my 23K - I have sent the N244 to combine my 5 claims into 1 - Judge wants a hearing about it all I think (I phoned the court) - so I'm waiting for the post.

 

CONGRATULATIONS!

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PHOTOMAN ,thanks i will do in a couple of days. The postman has just been and i have a lovely chequeeee in the palmeee of my handeeeeeeeee for 20 grandeeee Whoopeeeeeee.:D

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Yaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy for Parkie!!!!!!!!! A massive big heartfelt CONGRATULATIONS to you honey!!!! If anybody deserves this win - it's definitely you. I'm so excited and chuffed for you! Lots of love, hedgey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :D :D :D :D

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Cheers Hedgey, Always there to give support.

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

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