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    • Thanks I have been reading quite a few this one got me as it did say they have instructed them to take legal action but thanks again your a legend 
    • Yes we will be emailing them. We have kept a log of all conversations with everyone involved and backed up conversations with emails 👍
    • 'they' dont send court letters. only a sheriffs court can do that if the debt OWNER is brave enough to request they raise a court claim......... unlike E&W the scottish legal system is far more geared toward empowering the consumer and always put claimants to strict 1000% proof they are the legal owner of a debt, are legally due payment and hold the all the correct enforceable paperwork. just read a few Nolan SPC threads... dx  
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
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hi, they are doing the same to me, someone signed up my name nad address on there and they are chargin me for something i never knew about :( they are threatening to take me to court and everything, i dont know what to do at all,

 

i told them that i never signed up to it and someone else must of done it under my name, but they have my ip? so obviousaly someone else in this household did it and i havent got a clue who did,

 

what should i do, i really need help

 

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why would they say all that stuff

 

So you'll panic and pay up!!!

 

As has already been advised, pop their e-mail adress into your junk senders and put it behind you, there is more chance of you getting your free texts than there is of them getting you into court!!!

 

Please take notice of what has already been posted on this thread, it's a [problem], the web is full of them, people who see an easy buck and think nobody will catch up with them - how wrong they are.

 

Please folks, beware of everyone on the web, even those names you trust, let alone those you've never heard of.

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Oh no... I was going hell until I finish reading the forum. I don't know somehow I signed up for this free sms without reading it fully. And I was getting emails after emails from them and I was so scared. Eventhough I am in Canada I was feared because I signed up with my office ip, the IP is static. I didn't know what to do. I went to the 125sms site again while I was at my work place it seems that they are recording the IP because I they had my IP, domain and everything there.

 

I am thinking of reporting to BBC or something. I see that so many people are getting this emails and for sure some of them must have paid the amount that they requested. For those poor people we should do something to end their drama.

 

Thank you for all your support. I am taking a big breath now.

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Why is everyone making a big thing about IP addresses, if like most you are assigned an IP address dynamically then ANYONE using your ISP could have had that IP address at that given time unless you have a static address it means sweet FA, the only way they could tie you to an IP is with a UK court order ordering your ISP to release the logs of who had what IP at a given time and do you really think these chancers are going to get that court order or your ISP is going to give it to them? I think not

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The type of IP you have is irrelevant, dynamic or static. Basically these guys are [problematic] and are hoping you'll give in and just pay up. i don't think you'd ever need to worry about seeing the inside of a court room over this.

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Its not irrelevant I was making a point that them having your IP address makes no difference because without ISP logs they cannot prove it was you and was attempting to help allay the fears of people worrying about IPs

 

So in reply to your post the my answer regarding IPs IS relevant and who are you to decide whats relevant or not to a discussion anyway I dont see a moderators badge on your profile!

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I know about IP addresses. I also know that ISPs will not under any circumstances release their log information to anyone. Even the Police have to demand it, and can only get it in case of a criminal investigation. The Police have repeatedly said to me that

"it's nearly impossible to get enough evidence to place someone at a keyboard doing a particular thing at a particular time with only electronic evidence. You need a witness."

 

So - ignore all their crap about IP addresses - they've got NOTHING. NADA. ZIP. DIDDLY. Even if they were not [problematic], I would ignore this particular piece of claptrap.

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Tell that to the people who have had the RIAA knock on their doors or to the guy who has just lost his battle to appeal his extradition to the US for hacking into military computers. If a company has a lawful reason to bring your IP address to law enforcement they can and will track you down however in the case of this SMS service, they don't have a lawful reason but are just trying to use it to scaremonger.

 

What I was saying is that it doesn't matter in the slightest whether you have a static or dynamic IP because they are both traceable to your machine so why static and dynamic IPs were even brought into the discussion I don't know. So yes, static and dynamic IPs are IRRELEVANT.

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Tell that to the people who have had the RIAA knock on their doors or to the guy who has just lost his battle to appeal his extradition to the US for hacking into military computers. If a company has a lawful reason to bring your IP address to law enforcement they can and will track you down however in the case of this SMS service, they don't have a lawful reason but are just trying to use it to scaremonger.

 

What I was saying is that it doesn't matter in the slightest whether you have a static or dynamic IP because they are both traceable to your machine so why static and dynamic IPs were even brought into the discussion I don't know. So yes, static and dynamic IPs are IRRELEVANT.

 

Again, you're talking about Law enforcement. The Police. Criminal offences.

 

Here, on this site, we're talking about Civil Law. There is absolutely no way in a million years that anyone's ISP are going to give a company ANY information about the user of an IP address simply because they owe them money.

 

As I stated in my original post, the Police only get that information when they demand it in the course of a criminal investigation, and even then they must back it up with other evidence. Nothing you have said is a contradiction of anything I've said.

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well the poster above says the company is saying if you do not verify your details they will assume they are fraudulent and pass them onto law enforcement. Last time I checked, fraud was a criminal offense. Also, there is nothing stopping a judge ordering an ISP to provide the logs in a civil case if the judge finds it fit to do so. Anyways, this is completely off topic now.

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All those who have suffered at the hands of these should get together and do a mass complaint to Watchdog and the OFT

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There's a few where they log scams for you to check if something is on the level, you can also forward any you come across, try this one

 

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The problem is that these sites are run by people who are nationals of one country, often registered in another country and have the sites hosted in yet another, usually places which don't recognise international laws, the reason there are a lot of Nigerian scams around. Unless something is a major fraud or a risk to security, or the victim has pots of money, is unlikely anything will be done about it.

 

Remember - if something looks to good to be true - it usually is!!! (CAG being the exception to the rule of course)

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Its not irrelevant I was making a point that them having your IP address makes no difference because without ISP logs they cannot prove it was you and was attempting to help allay the fears of people worrying about IPs

 

So in reply to your post the my answer regarding IPs IS relevant and who are you to decide whats relevant or not to a discussion anyway I dont see a moderators badge on your profile!

 

Chill

 

You dont need to be a moderator to pass an opinion

Whatever I post is my opinion and should be taken as such, an opinion. While it is what I believe and is offered in good faith, it should not be taken as a statement of truth

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They advertise a service as free, but hidden deep within the contract is a charge.

 

More than the user being bought to court for breach of contract, I feel that the provider would have something to answer for in as much as breach of trades descriptions.

 

In any case, if the texts aren't getting through that you've sent - then the service is not being provided that you signed up for.

 

[problematic]!

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