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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business CEntre Name of the Claimant ? Lowell Portfolio i Ltd How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self   Date of issue –  15 Feb 2024 Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  The claim is for the sum of £922 due by the Defendant under and agreement regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 for a Capital One account with an account reference of [number with 16 digits] The Defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a Default Notice was served under s.87(1) of the Consumer Credit ACt 1974 which has not been complied with. The debt was legally assigned to the claimant on 16-06-23, notice of which has been given to the defendant. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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Hi Shell12. If your claim is allocated to Small Claims you, or the bank wont have to answer cpr 18 unless the court orders you to do so. If you followed CAG in your POC you have already requested disclosure, you have more urgent things to do like preparing your court bundle, I suggest you get on with that, submit 1 to court,1 to Cobbetts and save 1 for you, that'll show Cobbetts your ready to rumble.Lots of media coverage on unfair bank charges, I think banks are settling quicker.Good Luck.

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Responding to your post here:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-bank/64453-preparing-court-bundle-2.html#post602459

Just getting round to the Court Bundle, court date 13th April -

 

Apart from the contents page do - have to amend anything in the 43 page court bundle or do I simply print 3 copies ?

 

Thank you

 

You need to post up the order from the judge that advises you of, inter alia, the trial date.

 

In any event this is is a good link for the bundle:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/guidance-notes/64911-got-court-date-guide.html

 

You are really cutting things fine, with a hearing so soon, it takes at least a day to prepare the bundle properly.

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Sorry missed out the month of March, you are right normally 14 days prior to hearing - must stop taking those stooopid pills.

 

In any event post up the order.

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hi shell,

i am in court april 27Th i too have heard nothing but i have my court bundle ready to take to court this friday 13th! another member told me to try and give them a ring to remind them or sort of ask them if they know they are in court and if they intend to settle or if indeed they intend to show at court -and also to say that i will let the judge/court know of their intentions . just simply to act a bit smart with them to let them know i am prepared for court!

i have been getting my courage together and i am phoning them in the morning!?!

anyway good luck to you -would you please let me know what happens with your court day 13Th??? as it seems you are only one week ahead of me and are claiming a similar amount.:)

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Have they settled yet ?

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

Good things come to he who waits

 

 

Its your money taken unlawfully from your account and you have a legal right to claim it back.

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Shell12? Can You Give Me Any Advice On Your Court Bundle? I Am Just Doin Finishing Touches To Mine As Got To Hand In To Court In The Morn'. I Simply Printed Everything Off X3 But Got No Idea Which Bits To Highlight According To My Case Etc.

I Have Put A Polite Letter In To The Judge To Apologise "if I Have Not Done As I Should Or Made Any Mistakes It Is Because The Whole Process Has Been So Hard And Confusing As Natwest Intended It To Be By Their Actions" - What Do You Advise If Anything?

Good Luck Tomorrow :)

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Hi,

 

Well went to court today and no show from Cobbetts, although they had filed a defence and therefore didn't need to turn up ????

 

Anyway - I was the only case re-bank charges today and deamed less in important than any other case.

 

I was advised that a judge had phoned in sick this morning and therefore my case would have to be put back to after sitting there for over 2hrs.

Court date now - 10th July !!!

 

Requested the judge rule in my favour as no show from cobbetts and advised as it was the courts decesion to amend and Cobbetts may still show up !!!

 

Friday 13th for me.

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hi there,

can anyone advise me on the letter i received along with a cheque from natwest.

the cheque is for full & final settlement on the basis :-

 

1: i agreee not to disclose to any third party the fact of, or any details relating to this payment

 

2: i write to the court withdrawing my claim ( court date next fri' 27th april)

 

i am happy with the cheque amount as it was only pounds away from my total by this i mean they havent added on the daily % from start of my claim which was 0.87 daily.

so does anyone think this is ok?

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Guest NATTIE

Yes and congratulations, if you have a pen on you remember to cross out the terms that have been set by natwest and accept and enjoy.

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