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Sorry steve, no I didnt receive your AQ The guys name is Paul, I have phoned SCM this morning waiting for mr Thomas to phone me back, I aint gonna sign anything until I receive what I'm owed.

Watch for the posstie coz yours cant be far away.

Good luck.

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If necessary send them another letter pointing out the shortfall and say that you will continue to pursue the balance through the court.

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I wonder if they are not paying up as you are not accepting it on their terms brecken, ie full and final settlement. They may consider your terms unacceptable (at the moment). I assume that you have not withdrawn the court case, but I would have thought they should at least be responding to your letter soon, even if you don't get a cheque. Looks like this is not over for you yet.

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I don't think you need say any more. I wonder if you would mind completing the survey which is anonymous, if that is appropriate.:D

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Fabulous Brecken!!! Well done! I have been learning loads from your thread. Thank you,

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29 March 2006 Data Protection Act Request sent for ac 1 (then she got a bit distracted but got another charge so...)

27 May Prelim letter sent for ac 1

27 May Data Protection Act Request sent for ac 2 & 3

21 June Prelim Letter sent for 2 & 3

14 July LBA sent with schedule for ac 1 & 2 & 3

7 August MCO filed – defence expected 10 September

11 September defence filed - signed Sean Copping

12 September AQ form received

18th September AQ sent back to Lambeth Court and copy sent to solicitors both recorded delivery

13th Feb 2007 Court Date Set

15th Feb Reclaimed Money is in my bank Account

 

Cat's opinions are those of a nurse and most definitely, definitely not those of an accountant or solicitor, although she was always quite good at sums and elocution.

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still no payment from Lloyds, terms of agreement were that a balance of £402.41 would be paid into my closed account to pay an outstanding balance, the rest would be sent to me in the form of a cheque, I have just found out that the balance as been paid into the account, but the cheques is still to be raised, I can not find out who to speak to, letters have been replied to but only to say, we have passed your complaint to relative dept and endless phone calls end up with me being put through to the wrong dept, no one seams to know which dept I have to write to or speak to, the solicitors say it's them I need to deal with, and that they are waiting for the cheque from the bank, but they wil not chase the cheque for me, and say I just have to be patient. I am so angry.

Any advice please.

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Hi brecken,

 

Have you considered persuing the line of calling the solicitors and stating that you will not cancel the claim until the cheque is cashed and money safe in your bank?

 

They haven't fulfilled their end of the settlement; therefore, you don't need to fulfill yours. The above will more likely than not give the solicitors a nudge to chase the payment.

reload vs Lloyds - £2703.11 Settlement Reached 14/07/06.

reload vs Lloyds Round 2 - Prelim sent 27/03/07. £435 owed.

reload vs Capital One - £456.57 Settlement Reached 14/07/06.

reload's mum vs Barclays - £745 owed. £375 partial settlement reached 17/10/06.

Lloyds Bank - The Template Response Letters!

 

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Just done that re load, cheeky git, asked " why do you need the money so urgently" told him I didnt NEED the money I WANTED the money, its mine.

he said he could do anything until cheque had been sent from bank to them for dispatch, when I ask who I should speak to in the bank he wouldnt give me their name, I recorded the call by the way.

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Good stuff. I suggest you proceed with the claim then - have you been given a court date yet?

 

Hell, it may even be worth drafting a letter addressed to the solicitors, and sending copies to Lloyds, the Solicitors, and the County court. Something along the lines of:

 

 

RE: Carlisle County Court case number xxx/xxxxx

 

Dear solicitor,

 

In relation to our ongoing settlement discourse over the above County Court claim, and as discussed with both yourselves and your client, I am hereby notifying you that this claim will be proceeding until such time as you have fulfilled your end of the settlement.

 

To whit, I expect receipt of a cheque for the sum of £xxx.xx immediately - again, as explained to numerous individuals involved in the handling of this case. You have so far failed to provide this settlement payment since the agreement was made on 08/08/2006, and continuing to do so shows complete disregard for the binding agreement made between ourselves.

 

In addition, I consider that you are showing contempt for the settlement process, and until such time as the funds outstanding are accessible to myself I will be persuing this claim. As you know, I have already returned the Allocation Questionnaire to the County Court, and am currently awaiting a court date.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

 

brecken

 

... or something to that effect anyway ;)

reload vs Lloyds - £2703.11 Settlement Reached 14/07/06.

reload vs Lloyds Round 2 - Prelim sent 27/03/07. £435 owed.

reload vs Capital One - £456.57 Settlement Reached 14/07/06.

reload's mum vs Barclays - £745 owed. £375 partial settlement reached 17/10/06.

Lloyds Bank - The Template Response Letters!

 

Advice & opinions of reload are offered informally, without prejudice and without liability. Please use your own judgment. Seek advice of a qualified insured professional if you have any doubts.

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start of a new week and still no cheque, I have today took legal advice and had a letter sent to SCM, if nothing else my experiance might help others.

Please make sure that when a settlement offer is made, you add your own conditions, for example you will only except their offer if the settlement is paid within say 7 to 10 days or something, then you have something to fall back on, as far as Im concerned my court date is set, and will remain set until full & final payment as been paid to me. Im so wound up I would relish a day in court with these idiots lol, infact I hope they dont send cheque so I can go to court lol.

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Don't worry honey, you'll win x

Lloyds TSB - £972

S.A.R, prelim and LBA sent

Claim acknowledged

Defence received

AQ 20/06/06

***FULL SETTLEMENT RECEIVED 20/07/06***

 

Woolwich - £2288

S.A.R, prelim and LBA sent.

Offered half

Moneyclaim filed online 02/08/06

Judgement filed online 23/08/06

WARRANT FILED ONLINE 30/08/06

MONEY RECEIVED BY BALIFF 04/10/06

***FULL SETTLEMENT RECEIVED 09/10/06***

 

Smile - £175

Pelim 23/06/06

***FULL SETTLEMENT RECEIVED 07/07/06***

 

My Ex vs Woolwich - £715

S.A.R sent 30/08/06

Pelim 06/10/06

LBA 20/10/06

 

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It looks like my last letter had some effect on them, just had a call to say cheque is at solicitors should reveive in a couple of days.

still I wont hold my breath.

 

thanks reload, looks like your letter worked.

 

Brecken x

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Blimey, I did something right? :D

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reload vs Lloyds - £2703.11 Settlement Reached 14/07/06.

reload vs Lloyds Round 2 - Prelim sent 27/03/07. £435 owed.

reload vs Capital One - £456.57 Settlement Reached 14/07/06.

reload's mum vs Barclays - £745 owed. £375 partial settlement reached 17/10/06.

Lloyds Bank - The Template Response Letters!

 

Advice & opinions of reload are offered informally, without prejudice and without liability. Please use your own judgment. Seek advice of a qualified insured professional if you have any doubts.

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That's brilliant news Brecken, well done. Drinks on you eh?!

Lloyds TSB - £972

S.A.R, prelim and LBA sent

Claim acknowledged

Defence received

AQ 20/06/06

***FULL SETTLEMENT RECEIVED 20/07/06***

 

Woolwich - £2288

S.A.R, prelim and LBA sent.

Offered half

Moneyclaim filed online 02/08/06

Judgement filed online 23/08/06

WARRANT FILED ONLINE 30/08/06

MONEY RECEIVED BY BALIFF 04/10/06

***FULL SETTLEMENT RECEIVED 09/10/06***

 

Smile - £175

Pelim 23/06/06

***FULL SETTLEMENT RECEIVED 07/07/06***

 

My Ex vs Woolwich - £715

S.A.R sent 30/08/06

Pelim 06/10/06

LBA 20/10/06

 

Advice & opinions provided are personal, and not endorsed by CAG or BAG, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

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Yep, that's exactly how I feel about Lloyds

Lloyds TSB - £972

S.A.R, prelim and LBA sent

Claim acknowledged

Defence received

AQ 20/06/06

***FULL SETTLEMENT RECEIVED 20/07/06***

 

Woolwich - £2288

S.A.R, prelim and LBA sent.

Offered half

Moneyclaim filed online 02/08/06

Judgement filed online 23/08/06

WARRANT FILED ONLINE 30/08/06

MONEY RECEIVED BY BALIFF 04/10/06

***FULL SETTLEMENT RECEIVED 09/10/06***

 

Smile - £175

Pelim 23/06/06

***FULL SETTLEMENT RECEIVED 07/07/06***

 

My Ex vs Woolwich - £715

S.A.R sent 30/08/06

Pelim 06/10/06

LBA 20/10/06

 

Advice & opinions provided are personal, and not endorsed by CAG or BAG, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

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Thirded - once round 2 is dealt with I'm going to be straight out the door :D

reload vs Lloyds - £2703.11 Settlement Reached 14/07/06.

reload vs Lloyds Round 2 - Prelim sent 27/03/07. £435 owed.

reload vs Capital One - £456.57 Settlement Reached 14/07/06.

reload's mum vs Barclays - £745 owed. £375 partial settlement reached 17/10/06.

Lloyds Bank - The Template Response Letters!

 

Advice & opinions of reload are offered informally, without prejudice and without liability. Please use your own judgment. Seek advice of a qualified insured professional if you have any doubts.

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Do you know, I feel that strongly about it, I could almost see myself standing at the door of Lloyds with leaflets explaining all about this place, and encouraging people to join.

They have pi**ed me about so much I wouldnt care if I got lifted for it, it would be worth it, they cant close my account it's already closed ah ah ah

So up yours Lloyds, na na na na.

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