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    • Hi there, Here is the sticky filled out as best as possible:  Which Court have you received the claim from? MCOL (County Court Business Centre, Northampton) Name of the Claimant: Uk Parking Control Limited Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal Date of issue: March 2023 Following events: — DQ sent to me July 2023 — I filed a DQ in September 2023 — My claim was transferred to [my local court] September 2023 — Received Notice of Allocation to Small Claims Track (Hearing) including date for hearing in April 2024 — Witness statement due by May 14 — Claimant must pay court fees by May 17 — Court hearing on June 18   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. 1. The defendant is indebted to the claimant for a Parking Charge issued at [x] issued to vehicle [__] at Walcot Yard, Walcot Road, Bath, Ba1 5bg. 2. The PCN details are [___]. 3. The PCN(s) was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on Cs signs (the Contract), this incurring the PCNs. 4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN is outstanding. The Contract entitles C to damages.  AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. £160 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages. 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of [x]p until judgement or sooner payment. 3. Costs and court fees   What is the value of the claim? ~260 Amount Claimed ~170 court fees ~35 legal rep fees ~50 Total Amount  ~260   Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? No   Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? No Here is the defence I filed:  DEFENCE 1. The parking charges referred to in this claim did not arise from any agreement of terms. The charge and the claim was an unexpected shock. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that any conduct by the driver was a breach of any prominent term and it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as managers) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the Particulars. The facts as known to the Defendant: 2. It is admitted that on the material date the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question, but liability is denied. 3. While working at a nearby premises, [___] the Defendant was informed by the manager that they had an informal verbal agreement with the developer and owner operator of [___], which supposedly allowed them to park there. Based on this information, the Defendant parked their car there in good faith. The Defendant was not aware of any restrictions or limitations to this agreement, and therefore believed that they had the right to park there without penalty. 4. The Defendant avers that the Claimant failed to serve a Notice to Keeper compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Consequently, the claimant cannot transfer liability for this charge to the Defendant as keeper of the vehicle. 5. The Particulars of Claim ('POC') appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action”. 6. The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case is being pursued. 7. The POC are entirely inadequate, in that they fail to particularise (a) the contractual term(s) relied upon; (b) the specifics of any alleged breach of contract; and (c) how the purported and unspecified 'damages' arose and the breakdown of the exaggerated quantum. 8. The claim has been issued via Money Claims Online and, as a result, is subject to a character limit for the Particulars of Claim section of the Claim Form. The fact that generic wording appears to have been applied has obstructed any semblance of clarity. The Defendant trusts that the court will agree that a claim pleaded in such generic terms lacks the required details and requires proper particularisation in a detailed document within 14 days, per 16PD.3 9. The guidance for completing Money Claims Online confirms this and clearly states: "If you do not have enough space to explain your claim online and you need to serve extra, more detailed particulars on the defendant, tick the box that appears after the statement 'you may also send detailed particulars direct to the defendant.'" 10. No further particulars have been filed and to the Defendant's knowledge, no application asking the court service for more time to serve and/or relief from sanctions has been filed either. 11. In view of it having been entirely within the Claimant's Solicitors' gift to properly plead the claim at the outset and the claim being for a sum, well within the small claims limit, such that the Defendant considers it disproportionate and at odds with the overriding objective (in the context of a failure by the Claimant to properly comply with rules and practice directions) for a Judge to throw the erring Claimant a lifeline by ordering further particulars (to which a further defence might be filed, followed by further referral to a Judge for directions and allocation) the court is respectfully invited to strike this claim out. 13. Whilst the new Code and Act is not retrospective, it was enacted due to the failure of the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes of Practice. The Minister is indisputably talking about existing (not future) cases when declaring that 'recovery' fees were 'designed to extort money'. A clear steer for the Courts which it is hoped overrides mistakes made in a few appeal cases that the parking industry desperately rely upon (Britannia v Semark-Jullien, One Parking Solution v Wilshaw, Vehicle Control Services v Ward and Vehicle Control Services v Percy). 14. Far from being persuasive, regrettably these one-sided appeals saw Circuit Judges led in one direction by Counsel for parking firms, and the litigant-in-person consumers lacked the wherewithal to appeal. In case this Claimant tries to rely upon these, the Defendant avers that errors were made in every case. Evidence was either overlooked (including signage discrepancies in Wilshaw, where the Judge was also oblivious to the BPA Code of Practice and the DVLA KADOE requirement for landowner authority) or the Judge inexplicably sought out and quoted from the wrong Code altogether (Percy). In Ward, a few seconds' emergency stop out of the control of the driver was unfairly aligned with the admitted parking contract in Beavis. Those learned Judges were not in possession of the same level of information as the DLUHC, whose incoming statutory Code of Practice now clarifies such matters as a definition of 'parking' as well as consideration and grace periods and minor matters such as 'keying errors' or 'fluttering tickets/permits' where a PCN should not have been issued at all, or should have been cancelled in the pre-action dispute phase. POFA and CRA breaches 15. Pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper, even in cases where a firm may have complied with other POFA requirements (adequate signage, Notice to Keeper wording/dates, and a properly communicated 'relevant contract/relevant obligation'). If seeking keeper/hirer liability - unclear from the POC - the Claimant is put to strict proof of full compliance and liability transferred. 16. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ('CRA'). The CRA introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'. In a parking context, this includes signage and all notices, letters and other communications intended to be read by the consumer. 17. Section 71 creates a duty upon courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well placed and lit, and all terms unambiguous and obligations clear. The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying due regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the requirements for fair/open dealing and good faith. ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished (lack of legitimate interest/prominence of terms) 18. ParkingEye overcame the possibility of their £85 charge being dismissed as punitive, however the Supreme Court clarified that ‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged’ in parking cases, which must each be determined on their own facts. That 'unique' case met a commercial justification test, and took into account the prominent yellow/black uncluttered signs with £85 in the largest/boldest text. Rather than causing other parking charges to be automatically justified, the Beavis case facts set a high bar that this Claimant has failed to reach. 19. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor 'concealed pitfalls or traps'. 20. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. The Claimant’s small signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, and are considered incapable of binding a driver. Consequently, it remains the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous 'penalty' was seen or agreed. Binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge, include: (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (‘red hand rule’) and (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2, both leading authorities confirming that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space'' (NB: when parking operator Claimants cite Vine, they often mislead courts by quoting out of context, Roch LJ's words about the Respondent’s losing case, and not from the ratio). 21. Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the statutory Code and this is supported by the BPA & IPC Trade Bodies. In November 2020's Parking Review, solicitor Will Hurley, CEO of the IPC, observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t. The introduction of a new ‘Code of Practice for Parking’ provides a wonderful opportunity to provide clarity and fairness for motorists and landowners alike." Lack of standing or landowner authority, and lack of ADR 22. DVLA data is only supplied to pursue parking charges if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules). It is not accepted that this Claimant (an agent of a principal) has authority from the landowner to issue charges in this place in their own name. The Claimant is put to strict proof that they have standing to make contracts with drivers and litigate in their own name. 23. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The Appeals Annex in the new incoming statutory Code shows that genuine disputes such as this would see the charge cancelled, had a fair ADR existed. Whether or not a person engaged with it, the Claimant's consumer blame culture and reliance upon the industry's own 'appeals service' should not sway the court into a belief that a fair appeal was ever on offer. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and reject almost any dispute: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (IPC's 2020 Annual Report). Conclusion 24. The claim is entirely without merit. The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that claims like this should be struck out because knowingly enhanced parking claims like this one cause consumer harm on a grand scale. 25. There is ample evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims. For HMCTS to only disallow those costs in the tiny percentage of cases that reach hearings whilst other claims to continue to flood the courts unabated, is to fail hundreds of thousands of consumers who suffer CCJs or pay inflated amounts, in fear of intimidating pre-action threats. 26. In the matter of costs, the Defendant asks: (a) at the very least, for standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and (b) for a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, seeking costs pursuant to CPR 46.5. 27. Attention is drawn specifically to the (often-seen from this industry) distinct possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not normally apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))." Statement of Truth I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • Hi, I was caught by the security guards today for shoplifting in John Lewis. I think total amount is about £500. They said they saw me on CCTV last week, I was freaked out so I admitted it. I know it’s awful… I cried as I was too scared and begged them pls don’t call the police. They took pics of me and wrote down my details from banking app as I didn’t have any id with me. I told them my difficulties that I was scammed £35k recently and I lost my job so I stole those things and sell them. I apologised and they said they won’t call the police but I’m banned and will receive letters from RLP for fines which including this time and the last time(I didn’t give back the goods I took last time). I know it’s very very bad, I feel shameful and so depressed so hopeless about everything happened. I wonder since it’s a lot of money, will they sue me, take me to the court, or will they change their mind to call the police when they check the cctv footage to check how much I owe them? I said sorry I really couldn’t afford the fine at this situation, they said it’s their job they can’t do anything. Later when I was out of the mall, the security guard said, I can call RLP to negotiate about the fee. Also I’m probably moving to another city in 2 months, so if they want to take me to court but I didn’t receive any letters what should I do… and the security guy told me it’s worse as I traveled to this city and stealing stuff. I’m home now but feeling awful, wish people could give me some advice, thank you very much.
    • Before you do any of the above – Stop! You need to spend a few days reading up on the stories on this sub- forum so that you understand the principles and you understand how to go about making your claim. We will help you – and you have a better than 95% chance of getting your money back – but you need to be in control of what you are doing. We will help you – but this is a self-help forum and you need to have done the reading so that you are confident of each step and you know your way forward. Please don't do anything at all – in particular don't send a letter of claim – until you have done all the reading and I would suggest that probably you will start drafting your letter of claim over the weekend. Also, you haven't told us anything about what has happened. We don't know dates, items dispatched, value, whether they were properly declared, whether you bought so-called insurance, you have been declined reimbursement but we don't know why. If you want us to help you then you will have to give us this basic information. Also the fact that you are an eBay trader makes this slightly more complicated although it doesn't at all affect your chances of success.  Read the other threads on this sub- forum – and especially the pinned threads at the top in order to understand the principles. You also quickly understand the kind of help that we will give you and you will understand some of the draft documents which have been used in other successful claims.
    • Thanks, I'm finishing up the skeleton and hope to have it done today. Will look at statement of case too and get that done over the next few days.
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Dealing with Kings Interhigh in Spain - Claiming unpaid fees - RESOLVED but still lost our £1000 refundable deposit


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We've just been through the same process for exactly the same reasons but managed to resolve this in our favour AND get them to drop the court case

i have confirmed they will NOT be chasing us for this money they suggested we owed them for terminating our contract.

it was a very positive outcome.

I'm happy to share how we did this if you're interested but appreciate this is not my thread,

but just wanted to offer my help and support.

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@KingsParent please create you own topic and tell us the whole story please.

dx

6 minutes ago, SweetCaroline said:

Hi, i d like to talk to you, can we?

id advise against this

we dont know who people really are,.

their thread will give you all the info you need

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi,

I'm a previous parent of Kings. 

Our child attended for a a few short months but was desperately unhappy with the lack of support and guidance and teaching methods.

As working parents, we were having to take it in turns to be available for her all day to help navigate around the different platforms to find the files and even we had trouble.  When we did manage to find the documents, it was too late and we had missed the teaching objective and the purpose of the lesson.

We were told to speak to IT support who in turn told us to speak to the teachers. We tried on numerous occasions to call them, but their voicemail box was full so were unable to leave a message. We emailed and were ignored. We even used the 'contact us' form on their website which was left ignored.

As we could see our child was becoming a recluse, unhappy, isolated and very upset and angry and she felt she was losing her academic abilities, we removed her from the school and emailed them to tell them why.  This email was also ignored until we sent another one which they eventually responded to.  We asked for our refundable deposit back, but they chose to keep this to pay off a partial amount off what they said we still owned them for the rest of the academic term and they mentioned the contract and used this against us.

Their Account Dept started sending us threating emails to which we replied initially saying they had also broken their contract T&C's because they had not provided a reasonable service (education).  We also told them we would fight back and we never received another reply.

We eventually looked them up on TrustPilot only to find a lot of other disgruntled parents who left their 1* review and noticed each of them received a response from the school. We did the same (our review is attached).

One day later, our review was replied to (their response attached).  As you can see their reply states "We are sorry to hear about your experience and we are committed to resolving the matter. We have requested your details so we can look into this in more detail as a matter of urgency."

We looked up the CEO of Inspired Online School and found him on LinkedIn.  His last post was celebrating a Kings Interhigh pupil who secured two gold medals and a silver at the Youth Olympic Games. I added a comment to this post saying how this was great and not to take anything away from Zak's celebration, but it was not the same positive experience for our child and added more of my thoughts and also said that their TrustPilot response said they were 'committed to resolving the matter and they look into this as a matter of urgency' yet no one had contacted us at all.

Meanwhile, we were still receiving those annoying 'pupil concern' emails saying our child had not completed the homework - blah blah blah.  The good thing about LinkedIn is it tells you when you when someone views your profile and the CEO viewed my profile. 

Within a few days, we received a phonecall from a lady who said she was calling 'on behalf' of Kings Interhigh. She sounded genuinely interested to hear about our poor experience, apologising lots and said she was committed to resolving this IF our child did not want to return - she didn't. She asked what was our most favourable outcome and we asked for:

1. The court claim to be dropped with no further action

2. The charges to be dropped and not more money from us claimed

3. The return of our refundable deposit (£1,000).

She said she would do her best to help and would call us again in a few days. 

She did call us back and confirm that she had negotiated the court claim to be dropped AND all charges to be dropped and they would not chase us for any more money.  They said that they would not give us back our refundable deposit though.  We felt this was a positive step forward for them and 2 out 3 wants was better than one or none, we accepted this. 

This lady was actually very good, a great mediator and was a complete professional on the phone. 

I can't find any information about her and I only know her first name and she emailed us using the generic 'contact@kings...' mailbox.  However, because she started the conversation with wanting to hear about our experience and how Harriet was affected mentally and academically, it was refreshing that she was the only one from Kings to do this...to actually listen.

in turn, we treated her in the same way. No shouting, no abuse and we were very thankful, accepted her many apologies and stayed completely professional. I would say that really helped in both our favours. We left with the agreement that she would ensure these actions were processed AND put in writing and that has now happened. End of saga.

For anyone else in the same boat..

.I hope this helps because this has caused no end of stress for us as parents and our child felt very responsible for the position the school put us in. 

Glad it's over and not hanging over our heads anymore.

And we don't have to deal with those annoying 'pupil concern' emails anymore!

 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Kings Interhigh - Claiming unpaid fees - RESOLVED

can you post up a copy of your court claimform to PDF please 

read upload

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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It didn't get that far. 

They sent a series of threatening emails to us from the Credit Controller all called "Re: Debt Recovery Action Imminent" along with our child's name in the subject.

 
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what country are you in please?

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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we are a UK based forum.

how you resolved this in spain is of little relevance to UK users though i suspect there never was anything they could have done legal wise anyway, most certainly "she had negotiated the court claim to be dropped AND all charges to be dropped" is BS , there never were any charges .

On 02/03/2024 at 17:38, KingsParent said:

They said that they would not give us back our refundable deposit though.

so you actually lost £1000, quite honestly id find a spannish like forum and go take them to court and get that back.

you didn't really win at all. you got had for £1000.

thread title updated.

dx

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Dealing with Kings Interhigh in Spain - Claiming unpaid fees - RESOLVED but still lost our £1000 refundable deposit

Wow! Never thought I’d be bullied on a consumer support site whilst offering my story to help other parents for no other reason.

Perhaps, before calling this BS, you should take into consideration that the school in question is a school for international students. Students are therefore attending the English GCSE classes from ALL OVER THE WORLD no matter what nationality they are. As long as they can speak English - they can attend classes. Do your research. The contract T&Cs covers the jurisdiction and states that UK law will apply - no matter where a student lives. 

i am have nothing to gain by replying and only wanted to give other parents in similar situations support and a favourable solution.

The total sum that Kings we claiming from us from was approximately £3,000 so yes…on our eyes…this was a win for us. Which is subjective. For us, we are happy. We don’t want the stress of learning the Spanish court system, to pay the costs of taking them to court, to have this subject talked about infront of my daughter who has been suffering herself as a result.

So YES, for us - this is a positive result. I’m really not interested in your view of whether it’s a win. You’re not us. You’re a volunteer and perhaps need the money. Also, I’m sure you may have dealt the phone call in a different way. We feel content that we were able to reach this result without resorting to using bullying tactics like they did.

And like you have here. Why on earth are you even an admin on a help forum with your attitude? I’ve been open, honest, helpful and supportive, followed your rules and I’m also able to back my experience up with proof. Not for me. For others. I do genuinely hope this helps.

i think dx - you have a trust issue and sound unhappy in life. Me? I’m happy, content, £1000 down BUT…I’m not a volunteer so I’ll make that back in time and keep on looking after my children’s health, sanity and education in the way I see fit.

thank you.
 

 

 

 

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Interestingly, I found a real legal expert warning everyone not to trust the ‘dx chappie’ on this forum who is giving out questionable advice which we’ve just seen. Ironic.

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3 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

Please don't put personal contact details on the open forum. You don't know how they could be used or abused.

HB

I’ve just been abused by dx on this forum and I’m here to offer support not to be abused.

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As a father of a child at the uk-based international school in question, this story sounds all too familiar and I’ve been reading the various posts on here about the school for some months waiting for a potential solution to appear that did not involve having to appear in court.

However, this thread, which looks like was started with good intentions with a solution, appears to have been highjacked by unhelpful, arrogant forum owners.

Thank you to the parent who first published this post as this is what we needed to see.

I won’t be commenting on the actions of the people managing this forum as we have our own battle with the School to contend with but at least now, my wife and I have a plan and are talking to barristers who are fully trained in mediating effectively.

Thanks.

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1st - all my posts on CAG are made not only in reply to the specific issue the topic starter makes but also in a general matter to advise any future readers upon the related subject - here it is kings interhigh online school. KIH

lets take this topic apart shall we so readers know the real situation and the real truth...and underline the correct way to deal with KIH.

https://tinyurl.com/ycxb4fk7

Kings Interhigh Online School issues - Training and Apprenticeships - Consumer Action Group - but did not ever reply to the last post. 

but the user then went around every existing topic here on CAG about KIH pointing to the above topic and the 'want' to make some form of group  promoting some  'class action' against KIH .

then on the 2nd march this very topic this msg is in was created.

all remarkably similar eh?

all appear to be or state..they are in spain...

....as well as the earlier post flaunting their linkedin ID, (same profile picture) that might have slipped through via email before our admin killed it.., trying to give some kind of legitimacy to their 'credentials' of being 'an honest poster'....oh and some kind of 'zen' website using a .co.uk  address (when in spain- bit like the Chinese ebay sallers) they run ...

and now we get the father of the bride ...no sorry...father of a child at the uk-based international school in question posting ...pretending to be not the 'other alf... do you really think people are that stupid.....

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17 hours ago, KingsParent said:

The total sum that Kings we claiming from us from was approximately £3,000

nope you never owed that in the 1st place...

17 hours ago, KingsParent said:

The contract T&Cs covers the jurisdiction and states that UK law will apply - no matter where a student lives. 

wake up you got had and grabbed the phone - oh no they are taking me to court under UK jurisdiction...and fell for every trick in the book that they would never ever put in writing that could be placed in front of a court operating under their stated uk jurisdiction wherever you live.

T&C's are always challengeable under UK law

this very site would not exist if it were not for the +£Bn's bank charges reclaiming from 2006> and latterly the +£Bn's of PPI reclaiming both directly stated in the banks' T&C's were they claimed they were legally enforceable ...not!! they lost big time...

16 hours ago, Another KingsInterhigh Dad said:

and are talking to barristers

why? a waste of more money if you've not got a court claim.......:whistle:

why not use them for a good outcome...go reclaim that £1000 refundable :pound:deposit you got scammed out of .

people please research very carefully ...you never know who any of these people are that are posting about kings interhigh and their 'stories'

they could even be one of their online tutors or a shill . don't get taken in.

dx


 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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