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    • What do you guys think the chances are for her?   She followed the law, they didnt, then they engage in deception, would the judge take kindly to being lied to by these clowns? If we have a case then we should proceed and not allow these blatant dishonest cheaters to succeed 
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    • Yes, it was, but in practice we've found time after time that judges will not rule against PPCs solely on the lack of PP.  They should - but they don't.  We include illegal signage in WSs, but more as a tactic to show the PPC up as spvis rather than in the hope that the judge will act on that one point alone. But sue them for what?  They haven't really done much apart from sending you stupid letters. Breach of GDPR?  It could be argued they knew you had Supremacy of Contact but it's a a long shot. Trespass to your vehicle?  I know someone on the Parking Prankster blog did that but it's one case out of thousands. Surely best to defy them and put the onus on them to sue you.  Make them carry the risk.  And if they finally do - smash them. If you want, I suppose you could have a laugh at the MA's expense.  Tell them about the criminality they have endorsed and give them 24 hours to have your tickets cancelled and have the signs removed - otherwise you will contact the council to start enforcement for breach of planning permission.
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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and a p.s. i think i didn't mention - i asked garyh (and he knows!) if you are required to show your stuff to dg before presenting it in court and he says what i thought - if it isn't in your court directions - then no!!!!

so that sentence was a load of b... sh..! just to up your confidence level - they are just trying it on!

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Guy....... DG SETTLED !!!!!! :D

 

Big thanks to everyone that's helped, and given me the confidence to see this through. :)

 

I rang DG, and told them i wished to discuss their fax. Explained there were a few things i wasn't happy about. Firstly the amount was not what i have been requesting. He tried to explain that CI was not going to stand up in court, so i explained i was willing to drop my claim for CI, and accept 8% if we could do a deal.

 

I then explained he failed to include interest on charges, and he tried to argue i was not entitled to it. I explained i was, that i was confident a judge would see it that way, and that i was also therefore entitled to 8% on that too. This miffed him a little, so he offered £2250! I told him that charges, interest on charges and 8% comes to £2664.00 by my calculations. He then agreed we would settle on that. :D

 

So i told him my next issue was the lack of default removal. This started a 10 minute discussion on how it's beyond his remit to remove defaults. He argued the legal basis of removing it for 5 minutes, before i finally backed down and said we can leave it for a judge to decide if thats the case.

 

He went on to say he could request it, but the bank don't do it lightly. I asked if this would be before the hearing, and he said no! quite frustrated i explained that DG had 8 months to put plans in place to remove it, since it was in every request i had made. He said he'd make a few calls and see if they'd do it.

 

Phoned back an hour later to say.... "My clients are willing to remove the default, it will reflect in 24 hours." :D

 

So recieved email confirmation of the above, to which i returned an acceptance email. Charges & Charges OD Interest + 8% + Default removed :D

 

Thanks to everyone. Will donate when money is confirmed.... (I have it confirmed in an email, i hope this is watertight!)

 

MA

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HSBC A/C - WON! - £1,575 Charges, Stat Interest and default removed before court!

HSBC CC - WON! - £1,025 Charges, and Stat Interest refunded

ARGOS - WON! - £250 Charges & Contractual Interest

CREATION WON! - £180 Charges & Contractual Interest

BARCLAYCARD- Court Date Set - 09/10/2007

EGG - SAR Sent 22/12/06, ID Sent 05/01/07. No progress yet.

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hi maangov, congratulations with your success- its well deserved!

 

without wanting to put a damper on things, I am concerned that too many people are giving up on compounded contractual interest.

 

DG solicitors are using the case of Westdeutsche Landesbank as authority for the proposition that the Court has no authority to award compounded interest.

 

This is actually not true- what the judgement actually says that compound interest cannot be awarded in Common Law, but can be in Equity. You first have to show there is a fiduciary relationship.

 

Well there clearly is a fiduciary relationship between a Bank and its client- so therefore Equitable rules will apply and compounded interest should be allowed.

 

Its been a few years since I studied the Westdeutsche case, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this. If anyone else has any thoughts- I'm sure it would be useful to others who still have claims for compound interest running.

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