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    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
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    • Yes, it was, but in practice we've found time after time that judges will not rule against PPCs solely on the lack of PP.  They should - but they don't.  We include illegal signage in WSs, but more as a tactic to show the PPC up as spvis rather than in the hope that the judge will act on that one point alone. But sue them for what?  They haven't really done much apart from sending you stupid letters. Breach of GDPR?  It could be argued they knew you had Supremacy of Contact but it's a a long shot. Trespass to your vehicle?  I know someone on the Parking Prankster blog did that but it's one case out of thousands. Surely best to defy them and put the onus on them to sue you.  Make them carry the risk.  And if they finally do - smash them. If you want, I suppose you could have a laugh at the MA's expense.  Tell them about the criminality they have endorsed and give them 24 hours to have your tickets cancelled and have the signs removed - otherwise you will contact the council to start enforcement for breach of planning permission.
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I received my defence from Cobbetts on 13th. I sent back the response to the CPR part 18 request that i found in a separate sticky thread at the top of this page, and I included my Schedule of Charges. I havent included any response to there defence.

 

Do I need to send any sort of reply to that, or will my schedule by ok on its own with a covering letter and the copied text from the CPR part 18 sticky thread?

 

Also I last night received a letter from my local court with the questionnaire and am unsure on how to proceed. Would you advise to postpone any further action for a month, in the hope that Cobbetts will make me an offer. I did speak to Cobbetts yesterday to confirm they had received my schedule and they said they had and would contact me within a week or two.

 

Also i am unsure whether the £100 i need to pay to my local court will be refunded. If I pay the court and then Cobbetts offer me my original amount on the Schedule of Charges, this will not include the £100. Will I be able to claim this back either frmo the Court, or Cobbetts.

 

ANy help is much appreciated.

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Do I need to send any sort of reply to that, or will my schedule by ok on its own with a covering letter and the copied text from the CPR part 18 sticky thread?

That's fine

Also I last night received a letter from my local court with the questionnaire and am unsure on how to proceed.

Guide to AQ is in Bank Template Libarary

 

Will I be able to claim this back either frmo the Court, or Cobbetts.

 

Cobbetts

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People have different views on when to return the AQ, some like to wait to see if they can save the 100 quid and get payed out before, others, myself included, like to get it in early as this then means it will cost the bank another 100 quid.

 

The £100 AQ fee is reclaimable, but it's totally up to you when you submit this form.....so long as it's before the deadline of course.

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Don't be like the banks - give a little back

 

 

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Ok, thanks. I get paid this week, so may as well just pay the £100 now i think.

 

And just to clarify, it says in the guide to the questionnaire to tick that you dont want to delay by a month...if i continue and then Cobbetts make me an offer is it easy to stop the procedings? Thanks

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Yes it's easy to stop the proceedings. Once you receive your cheque for the full amount you will also get a Notice of Discontinuatiation, this will have to be filled out and returned to the court.

 

I havn't actually done mine yet as Cobbetts still owe me the AQ fee.

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