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    • Oh I see! thats confusing, for some reason the terms and conditions that Evri posted in that threads witness statement are slightly different than the t&cs on packlinks website. Their one says enter into a contract with the transport agency, but the website one says enter into a contract with paclink. via website: (c) Each User will enter into a contract with Packlink for the delivery of its Goods through the chosen Transport Agency. via evri witness statement in that thread: (c) Each User shall then enter into its own contract with the chosen Transport Agency. Packlink does not have any control over, and disclaims all liability that may arise in contracts between a User and a Transport Agency I read your post at #251, so I should use the second one (and changing the screenshot in the court bundle), since I am saying I have a contract with Evri? Is that correct EDIT: Oh I understand the rest of your conversation. you're saying if I was to do this i would have to fully adjust my ws to use the consumer rights act instead of rights of third parties. In that case should I just edit the terms and stick with the third parties plan?. And potentially if needed just bring up the CRA in the hearing, as you guys did in that thread  
    • First, those are the wrong terms,  read posts 240-250 of the thread ive linked to Second donough v stevenson should be more expanded. You should make refernece to the three fold duty of care test as well. Use below as guidance: The Defendant failed its duty of care to the Claimant. As found in Donoghue v Stevenson negligence is distinct and separate to any breach of contract. Furthermore, as held in the same case there need not be a contract between the Claimant and the Defendant for a duty to be established, which in the case of the Claimant on this occasion is the Defendant’s duty of care to the Claimant’s parcel whilst it is in their possession. By losing the Claimant’s parcel the Defendant has acted negligently and breached this duty of care. As such the Claimant avers that even if it is found that the Defendant not be liable in other ways, by means of breach of contract, should the court find there is no contract between Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant would still have rise to a claim on the grounds of the Defendant’s negligence and breach of duty of care to his parcel whilst it was in the Defendant’s possession, as there need not be a contract to give rise to a claim for breach of duty of care.  The court’s attention is further drawn to Caparo Industries plc v Dickman (1990), 2 AC 605 in which a three fold test was used to determine if a duty of care existed. The test required that: (i) Harm must be a reasonably foreseeable result of the defendant’s conduct; (ii) A relationship of proximity must exist and (iii) It must be fair, just and reasonable to impose liability.  
    • Thank you. here's the changes I made 1) removed indexed statement of truth 2) added donough v Stevenson in paragraph 40, just under the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982 paragraph about reasonable care and skill. i'm assuming this is a good place for it? 3) reworded paragraph 16 (now paragraph 12), and moved the t&cs paragraphs below it then. unless I understood you wrong it seems to fit well. or did you want me to remove the t&cs paragraphs entirely? attached is the updated draft, and thanks again for the help. WS and court bundle-1 fourth draft redacted.pdf
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Rwanda Is apparently the first of many places Government want to send migrants, but if they are going to cost billions collectively, then you wonder whether the money could be better spent. Other countries have the same issue and have larger numbers of migrants to deal with.

Surely it would better for UK and other Governments to collaborate on more effective border controls closer to where the migrants start their journeys. More work done to tackle the people traffickers. Asylum Centres based in safe countries closer to where migrants are escaping from.

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I agree with you, UB. At a cost of a million or more per asylum seeker, it isn't sounding cost-effective.

I think the sticking point in your suggestion could be the collaboration bit. Exceptionalism doesn't make that easy.

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So @theoldrouge

We've seen you ignore calls to condemn racism including extreme antisemitism from the extremist republican right

We've seen you ignore calls to condemn racism from the extremist Tory right including their London mayor candidate

We've seen you support far right candidates long associated with antisemitism as well as other forms of racism

We've seen you ignore calls to condemn racism and violence by the British far right EDL yobs (who are renowned for antisemitism as well as other racism) .. including outrageous EDL violent attempts to desecrate the cenotaph itself .. where no pro peace marchers went.

Even your support of Israeli atrocities seems only based on hate and not actual reasonable defense of Israel.

 

I'm struggling to understand how anyone other than a Racist extremist EDL supporter - with all the antisemitic and racist hate long associated with that group and its ilk - temporarily using the cover of hate of Muslims to stream bile, hate and division could do that?

 

How do you explain that?

So Sunak has finally grown half a pair and is desperately trying to follow Suella’s advice
As he has belatedly discovered the Left are attempting to subvert democracy 
Meanwhile following the result in Rochdale 
Starmer has been exposed and is looking like a frightened rabbit in the headlights 
He has for months proclaimed that he has changed the Labour Party only to discover that the candidate that he chose for Rochdale only lasted 48hours into the campaign before he came out with anti Semitic racial abuse 
Yet again the mob that you clearly support Jugg is to demonstrate in London and elsewhere 
Let us hope with Sunaks apparent backing the police get stuck in instead of acting like stewards 

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Saw the announcement of Sunaks speech with rumors it was around extremism affecting guv ..

thought eyup, surely hes not properly sacking anderson, braverman, truss and the other extremist hate mongering nut jobs

 

.. and of course he didn't - just waffled a bit, apparently about his party being a threat to democracy, and went back in

 

So @theoldrouge @TheEDLrouge

going to even condemn the edl/far right who attempted to attack and desecrate the cenotaph yet? or just continue your cowardly avoidence?

let alone condemn the rabid antisemitic far right Pals of Trumpy

 

 

Rwanda - 1.8 million pounds per trafficked human being - the other criminal traffickers must be green with envy at the fees Rwanda are getting from the british taxpayer via the corrupt Tories - the only green coming out of this corrupt cronyistic government.

£1.8 million per individual deportee - offer 1/10th or 1/100th that as an incentive and there would be queues around the block and they would actually leave .. with a smile on their faces.

Why is this guv paying Rwanda 100s million of UK taxpayer money for nothing more than the most expensive racist dog whistle in history?

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Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

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As @theEDLrouge hero truss 'mingles' with Nazis promoting her book

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Liz Truss made a speech at the far-right conference plugging her new book

 


Sunak says to wife - look at the profits Fujitsu have made for duff software and shafting a few thousand british plebs via a few bullies and lawyers - we should grab some of that - especially in the highly profitable British fossil fuels sector

In 25 years time when some paper does a report, we can just say - we'll give them a bit of money as long as you give us loads more contracts .. then drag it out for decades more ..... win win win

 

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Whats on the UP - taxation, debt and deficit, energy costs, immigration, cronyism, NHS waiting lists and food bank use

Whats on the down - living standards, Growth and Trade, Roads, Hospitals and schools

 

* Taxation at the highest level since WWII

* the national debt (the sum of every annual shortfall) has steadily risen from 64.7% of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2010 to 96.5% currently – the highest level since the 1960s.

* UK goods trade has fallen 15% below the G7 since Brexit

* The UK's trend rate of economic growth has fallen from 3.4% a year in the postwar period up to 1973, to 2.3% up to the 2008 financial crisis, to just 1.2% in the years since. Tory austerity for the masses - riches for the few.

* GDP per capita barely above pre-Covid levels, at just 4% above the mid-2016 level VS 8% in the eurozone and 15% for the US.

* Business investment in the UK economy lags behind the G7

* IPPR thinktank estimates the UK has underinvested to the tune of half a trillion pounds. Most visible in crumbling schools, hospitals and infrastructure, it argues this lack of investment is behind key reasons for lacklustre productivity gains.

 

A legacy of mismanagement and wasteful cronyism

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Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

However bad you think things are ..

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Not a patch a zahawi or sunaks wife or MOST of the conservative MPs and pals eh? is she let alone Sunak himselfs tax avoidance and tax havens - despite Tories and shills claiming otherwise.

.. or Sunaks (Indian) family company getting massive government contracts since he's been at the top - and NOT before.

or the PPE pals who shunted millions of profit from taxpayers into tax havens

A simple misunderstanding re the house she bought and lived in for years before allowing a family member to use it rent free and then simply selling it. .. with nothing hidden or routed via tax havens.

 

Shows a lot that the poops and their shills have to jump on something as simple and basically honest as this while excusing the enormous corruptions of their Tory MPs and Pals eh?

 

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Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

However bad you think things are ..

Could be worse - could be Farage

Sergei Lavrov:  “an ally” 

"echoing Putin's vile justification for the brutal invasion of Ukraine."

 

 

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doesn't matter. Everything hunt promises will either be paid for after the GE, or if they win, munged into unrecognisability to give 'get out of paying loopholes' to their doners and rich pals ..  or just dropped.

No doubts on that whatsoever

 

They are just stripping the final assets of the country for themselves and their pals who will give them well paid seats on the boards for doing nowt more than they've already done for their pals

Corrupt to their core - especially the new 'red wall' tories whos snouts were straight at the trough.

Why has that latest corrupt trough-meister Scott Benson not been arrested rather than just a suspension from parliament

- sounds like fraud, bribery, racketeering and a clear case of abuse of public office to me.

 

 

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Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

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Could be worse - could be Farage

Sergei Lavrov:  “an ally” 

"echoing Putin's vile justification for the brutal invasion of Ukraine."

 

 

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Seems every one is agreeing that your rankings and fake confection are just thatJugg
 

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Going by the discussions in this thread, I am guessing there may be a General Election coming up :)

 

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 My prediction is that the General Election will be first week of July.  Mid Summer, with older more Conservative voters more willing to go out and University students on break. So possibly best time of year for current Government.

Some are saying May, because the migration number stats are due to be issued end of May and they are expected to confirm highest net migration on record.

I don't think they will leave it until the Autumn

 

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Schools break up third week in July. But I think the election will be first Thursday in July.

The Tories will want a longer campaign period, because they will want to give plenty of time for Labours plans and candidates to be fully scrutinised by media and public. So it would not surprise me if the election in July was called as early as beginning of May after local elections on 2nd of May.

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Bridgen's estranged wife says he was captured by the anti-vax brigade.

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14 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

When though, UB?

Just after the first plane takes off to Rwanda
 

Bill will pass by Easter break 
Sunak will ignore the ECHR 
Election early summer 

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That the edl view? @theEDLrouge.

Gotta be wrong then. Ready to condemn your antisemitic right wing republicans yet?

 

First point, and its a lulu:  🇷🇼 Rwanda have quite clearly stated they will NOT break international law - even if the sunak is happy to try

.. dont need any other points really - although there are many - like the UK still accepting asylum seekers fleeing Rwanda - oops.

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Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

However bad you think things are ..

Could be worse - could be Farage

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2 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

Bridgen's estranged wife says he was captured by the anti-vax brigade.

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LOL

sat in a chair with eyes held open being braincell washed (just the one) watching movies about large syringes going into tender places (well he is a complete @***)

- shades of clockwork orange

 

.. although to be fairer than warranted, even he had enough working braincells to quickly see that re-de-form was far to whack-job even for him.

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

However bad you think things are ..

Could be worse - could be Farage

Sergei Lavrov:  “an ally” 

"echoing Putin's vile justification for the brutal invasion of Ukraine."

 

 

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Alternatively, A man who does understand  ..

poison of antisemitism and Islamophobia is infecting British politics”

'a concerted and growing attempt by some to degrade and humiliate minorities for political and electoral gain'

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

However bad you think things are ..

Could be worse - could be Farage

Sergei Lavrov:  “an ally” 

"echoing Putin's vile justification for the brutal invasion of Ukraine."

 

 

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CofE seeks others to pay for its part in profiting from slavery ..

 

The Church Commissioners have “embraced a target of £1bn”, according to the report ..

with £10m a year from the churches £10B slavery linked fund and the rest from ... 'not the CofE'

 

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Church plan to seek co-investors for fund comes after advisers said £100m originally earmarked did not reflect scale of ‘moral sin’

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

However bad you think things are ..

Could be worse - could be Farage

Sergei Lavrov:  “an ally” 

"echoing Putin's vile justification for the brutal invasion of Ukraine."

 

 

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UK Conservatives' support lowest in 46 years in new poll

An Ipsos poll put support for the Conservatives, in power for 14 years, at 20% at the end of February, down seven percentage points in a month, with the opposition Labour Party on 47%.
 
It was the lowest support Ipsos had recorded for the Conservatives since at least 1978, when it began regularly tracking support for the main parties.
The previous low was 22% in 1994, when John Major was Conservative prime minister

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

However bad you think things are ..

Could be worse - could be Farage

Sergei Lavrov:  “an ally” 

"echoing Putin's vile justification for the brutal invasion of Ukraine."

 

 

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