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    • new thread created for this claimform please post here now for anything to do with it now . pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’. Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID. You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .. get a CCA Request running to the claimant . https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332502-cca-request-consumer-credit-act-1974-updated-january-2015/ .. Leave the £1 PO unsigned and uncrossed . get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant] ... https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ . .use our other CPR letter if the claim is for an OD or Telecom Debt or Util debt]  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ on BOTH type your name ONLY Do Not sign anything .do not ever use or give an email . you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork  you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count] ..............  
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? lowell Solicitors : Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment? May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
    • Just an update for all. I received about a letter every other week, increasing in threat levels. Then I hadn't had one for a about two weeks, then Saturday received a carbon copy of the very first letter they sent me in February. Made me laugh, rinse and repeat. 
    • So, your response was not received by the SCP as you did not send it with a valid stamp. Therefore, from my two option in post #14, the first option is the only one available to you, but you do not have the option of asking to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level as the reason the SCP did not receive your response was down to you. Here's a reminder of what to do: Respond to the SJPN by pleading “Not Guilty” to both charges. In the “Reasons for pleading Not Guilty” box state that you are willing to plead guilty to the speeding charge providing, and only providing, the “Fail to Provide Driver's Details" (FtP) charge is dropped. This is a tried and tested method to deal with your problem and is almost always successful. Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to do this "deal" because it needs the agreement of the police prosecutor.. During the pandemic courts made every effort to have as few  people as possible attend and they began doing this deal under the "Single Justice" procedure without the defendant's attendance. Some courts have carried this procedure on whilst others have reverted to a personal attendance being necessary. If you are required to attend, your case will be taken out of the SJ procedure and you will be given a date for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. If that is the way they do it in the area involved you will have to attend, see the prosecutor and offer your "deal" in person. 
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Quote of the decade and undoubtedly at least in a large part - true

Actual conspiracy's are in the smaller parts.

 

"just a series of cock-ups made by people of limited intelligence desperate to shore up their own positions. A clown show, not a conspiracy"

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One of the respondents in oaksh*ts thread I think

She of course seems to be simply trying to claim lockdowns were wrong - rather than the actual facts that the methods and requirements of the implementations were mismanaged and incompetent, and that prior failures made the requirements more urgent.

(as detailed in the closed mutating virus thread)

Shes even spinning the leak

 

Jacob Rees-Mogg had a Covid test for one of his children couriered to his home by health officials at a time when there was a testing shortage.

An initial test for one of Mr Rees-Mogg’s children had been lost by the laboratory, prompting Matt Hancock’s special adviser to organise a courier to deliver a new test that night, wait for the child to take the new test, and then take it directly to the laboratory.

Two days before the test was personally delivered to the Rees-Mogg family home, the director of testing at NHS Test and Trace had been forced to issue her “heartfelt apologies to anyone who cannot get a Covid test at present”.

Reports at the time suggested a backlog of 185,000 tests waiting to be processed on September 11 2020, the day after the test was couriered to Mr Rees-Mogg, who at the time was Leader of the Commons.

 

 

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The test was sent by courier to the MP's home, and then straight to a lab

 

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and before everyone starts ripping into HandCock about the telegraph 'leaks',

it should be stated that handcocks spokesperson has said that all responses are being considered

 

* another bushtucker trial

* crying

* threatening legal action

* continuing lying

 

... all options

including all of the above - lying, crying and threatening while the 'cock  eats more fried kangaroo testicles

- a real cock and ball story

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Another British success story .. taking itself and its profits abroad

 

"(Reuters) -- British chip technology company Arm, owned by Japanese conglomerate SoftBank Group, said on Friday it will pursue a U.S.-only listing this year, ending speculation about a primary or a secondary listing in the U.K.

 

Arm is the world's biggest supplier of chip design elements used in smartphones, selling intellectual property to companies such as Apple and Qualcomm."

 

 

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Arm, the chip designer owned by Japan's SoftBank , said on Friday it would pursue a U.S.-only listing this year, dashing the British government's...

 

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In January, Rishi Sunak reportedly restarted talks with Softbank to persuade it to list the Cambridge-based computer chip maker in London.

 

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I see Lineker has compared the UK guvernments small boat intentions to the Nazis pogroms of the 30s..

... which as expected has quickly raised complaints and condemnation from a handful of Rottenführer, Anwärter and poopmeisters.

 

The BBCs Oberjunker is understood to be checking Linekers antecedents and requiring him to understand his oaths of allegiance to the BB-Creed.

 

 

" The BBC reported that while Lineker was not bound by the strict social media policies of BBC news and current affairs staff, the director general, Tim Davie, had discussed the issue of his comments in the past and it was understood he would be reminded of his responsibilities."

 

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Match of the Day host under fire after he condemns ‘cruel’ and ‘beyond awful’ small boats policy

 

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I see Rishi and Suella have upset all the right people, must be a vote winning policy then

 

Tory deputy chairman Lee Anderson told MailOnline: 'Yet again Gary Lineker has been allowed to kick about vile and baseless accusations, and the public are sick to the back teeth of it. It's time to tackle this woke crisp salesman and hold him to account for the nonsense he spews.'

Former minister Robert Jenrick said: 'My children are the grandchildren of Holocaust survivors, and I think those sorts of words should not be thrown around lightly. Gary Lineker is paid for by the British taxpayer. And it's disappointing that he is so far out of step with the British public.' 

The BBC said earlier today that Lineker would be 'spoken to' and 'reminded of his responsibilities'. 

 

 

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Which is of course what they want - it keeps the dogs whistled without hang to actually deliver something which would put us in breach of most of the worlds human rights, let alone international law.

 

Its all dog whistles while booting any resolutions good or bad  into the long grass

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Seems its Tory Poopulist policy on everything - goals that way .. but kick the ball into the long grass or we'll lose

 

Even this latest version of the withdrawal protocol is little different in real terms to Truss' apart from the backstop

- and the backstop was only there in case the UK didn't implement the systems - we had some years on trus't (sic) where trade continued largely avoiding the situation we are now in

 

and aside from Sunack getting it through parliament (almost a certainty) without imploding his party (thats the real question), sunck still has to implement the systems and NOT trash the oversight (the other real question)

- which they clearly didn't believe they could - or even want to try with Truss' version.

So the 2/3 cores of implementation are still ... nowhere.

 

 

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Ah, some good news starting to be reported at last

 

GB News records £30 million losses from a little over  £3 million revenue

 

"The broadcaster paid more than £11 million in wages (3x its income) and salaries to its staff during the year,

many of who include Conservative MP’s who have been given platforms to present their own shows."

 

Its directors were reportedly 'satisfied' with the above.

 

 

Perhaps they are just trying to make the BBC look good eh?

 

Effective way for them to get paid to put out 'opinion' that even Con Central wont allow.

 

 

 

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Bad news for you Jugg is that GB News has secured substantial new funding from new investors 
 

Meanwhile returning to what actually matters
 

The Labour leader, Sir Keir Starmer, is quite wrong to say that the BBC has 'caved in' to Tory MPs. Sensible BBC managers recognise that Mr Lineker has gone too far and they cannot just do nothing.

Sir Keir should imagine (admittedly it is hard) the rise to stardom of a brilliant and charming footballer with strongly conservative views, who eventually comes to present a premium primetime programme.

He should imagine such a person gaining nearly nine million Twitter followers as a result, and using this platform to excoriate Labour's long years of failure to control immigration, and indeed its long years of actively encouraging it.”
 

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so then @theoldrougeyour support of free speech only reaches as far as supporting anti-vax liars rights to promote anti vax lies which are easily proven as lies or at VERY best disinformation,

.. and you don't support free speech when its a REAL persons quite legitimately and honestly held and  long time supported (by actions) views on a subject?

 

I think that rather defines you and those like you.

 

 

So, Given Lineker was quite conservative (in the traditional sense) in his statement,

and it has been reported that Lineker had been told by the BBC that there would be no further action ...

 

Which do people think occurred:

 

1. The poopulist guv intervened to pressure the BBC to censor Lineker in a rather Russia/Iran manner

2. The Tory pals shunted into positions of power in the BBC decided off their own backs to attempt to censor Lineker

 

Given the reported prior decision by the BBC of 'no further action' .. gotta be the former hasn't it?

 

and also given that "BBC Chair Richard Sharp is under pressure for failing to declare his involvement in facilitating a loan for former Prime Minister Boris Johnson shortly before he was appointed to the role. "

 

 

Former BBC chief Greg Dyke warned on Saturday that "it looks like - the perception out there - that the BBC has bowed to government pressure"

 

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Mr Yousaf spoke out about the issue at an SNP leadership hustings in Glasgow.

 

 

 

 

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so then @theoldrougeyour support of free speech only reaches as far as supporting anti-vax liars rights to promote anti vax lies which are easily proven as lies or at VERY best disinformation,

.. and you don't support free speech when its a REAL persons quite legitimately and honestly held and  long time supported (by actions) views on a subject?

 

No as far as I am concerned Saint Gary could say what he liked if he had the decency to resign from an organisation that I am legally enforced to contribute to (or indeed if that corporation was defunded)
even though I very rarely endure their biased lefty output
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ROFL Cheered me up no end that you are upset about paying toward Linekers wages

 

re GobNews:

Given the massive fees and albeit rather limited platform given to right wing ministers to promote their own views and the simple fact that other than right wing sponsors are extremely limited

one could be forgiven for thinking  that GoBNews is just a way to route more funds and give a whistle to the CON artists from their few donors and promoters bypassing other  limitations and requirements.

 

 

So @oldrouge you haven't told us yet why you dont rail against  much more obvious real conspiracies

like

* bleach as a covid treatment asmong other real issues

* Blatantly OBVIOUS RT'esque Political interference in a public funded  'National broadcaster  (which they are crapping themselves about LOL)

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While we wait with growing clarity of how full of .. it certain right wing posters are

 

The latest results:

 

Gary Lineker: 10

The BBC: -2 (should be)

 

Its understood that the BBC will be appointing an 'independent' review of the BBC's Oaths of unquestioning loyalty to whoever and whatever they say ..

.. as soon as the poopulist guv has found someone willing to keep booting the populists chosen result into the long grass long enough for them to say many many times - that the 2 poopulist lackies should not be fired from the BBC overlordship while an investigation is in progress...

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Little history lesson for lefty’s 
 

 

The real problem with Gary Lineker is that he knows as much about politics as I know about football. But, while you will never catch me giving my opinions on soccer, Mr Lineker thinks his TV and advertising fame qualifies him to discuss politics and history. 

 

Actually, it is amazing how little so many people know about these things. Although modern school history seems to cover nothing apart from the wives of Henry VIII and Hitler, nobody seems to know one crucial fact. The Nazis were very left-wing.  

 

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The real problem with Gary Lineker is that he knows as much about politics as I know about football. But, while you will never catch me giving my opinions on soccer, Mr Lineker thinks his TV and advertising fame qualifies him to discuss politics and history. 

 

No, its his education, intelligence, empathy and common decency

 

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Actually, it is amazing how little so many people know about these things. Although modern school history seems to cover nothing apart from the wives of Henry VIII and Hitler, nobody seems to know one crucial fact. The Nazis were very left-wing.  

 

 

.. Which you ARE clearly bereft of

 

For info

Just because they called themselves National Socialists or whatever doesn't mean they were or are

.. rather like the claims of Stalin, Mao or Johnson

- all just wannabe dictators - JUST some more successful than others.

 

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition

 

 

 

So why dont we see you railing against real conspiracies @theoldrouge

 

* Like Trumps claims about bleach

* Like the Tories routing 100+ million to 'Moneys firms and  that having to be exposed by journalists while the poops were denying anything was wrong

* Like the Tories sending a Hercules to Turkey for (worthless) PPE they lied about ordering when journalists exposed the lack

* like  the uk GUV  politically interfering in the BBC as if it were RT

* like the UK guv implementing suppression of  rights of protest

* Like the UK guv putting laws into the hands of ministers rather than  Parliament or the courts

 

Lineker 10

BBC and @oldrouge -3

 

 

 

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Perhaps referring more directly to the title of this thread, and for those who have been following the US Silicon bank collapse and the fallout in other nations including the UK

The following is PRECISELY what the UK conservatives are doing, deregulating the financial institutions putting them back on the platform they were on before the financial collapse.

 

Perhaps worth noting hat Biden has said the US taxpayer will NOT carry the can (directly) and that the banking systems will carry te cost and the directors fired if its within his power to to it in the US

Likely certain that won't be the case in the UK.

 

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This is what happens when you deregulate checks on financial institutions.

 

 

Wonder how much the UK taxpayer is funding the HSBC 'takeover' of the UK arm?

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