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CHAMBERLAIN BUILDINGS.

Driver received Claim Form. Claimant EURO etc...

Address for documents: GLADSTONES etc...

Top right hand page: COUNTY COURT NORTHANTS etc ..

 

This will be defended but firstly who should I respond to, if anybody?

 

Parked for less than 5 minutes outside of bay(no ticket required) Insufficient time to read signage detailing 'contract'

Operative had no id or uniform and proceeded to take a couple of pics of vehicle. Unsure who he was initially.

 

Then POC £100 for PCN; £60 Contractual costs and then statutory interest .

 

Grateful for any advice please.

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FAMILY MEMBER RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING:

 

PARKING CHARGE NOTICE 09/18

NOTICE TO KEEPER

 

FINAL REMINDER 10/18

 

LETTER BEFORE COURT ACTION 11/18

 

LETTER BEFORE CLAIM 02/19

 

CLAIM FORM 04/19

 

DEFENCE:

NO OPPORTUNITY TO READ AND MAKE A JUDGEMENT DURING THE TIME PARKED(Less than 5 minutes)

UNSURE WHO  THE PERSON WITH THE CAMERA PHONE WAS, NO ID OR UNIFORM. MAY BE A STALKER?

 

Unable to pay too much attention to this bullying as during this time her mother(my wife) was diagnosed with terminal cancer and passed away 5 weeks ago. The last point probably not relevant legally but important to us.

 

Any guidance much appreciated thanks..

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what date did you file your defence please?

 

10 hours ago, dx100uk said:

well if they parked for less than 10 mins minimum [there is no max] the claim is dead in the water .

 

what date did you file your defence please?

We have ignored everything to date. Where may I reference this 10 minutes rule thanks?

 

When we have a robust defence, who do we submit it to? It's not clear- GLADSTONES or the COUNTY COURT?

 

11 hours ago, shamrocker said:

Sorry to hear of your loss.

 

I'd be surprised if the parking company haven't made a dog's dinner of this. First, you need to read this thread and then post the answers to your questions here:

 

A lot of information but I will trawl thro' it. Thank you.

We haven't responded to anyone to date by the way.

Next  task. Thanks for your advice.

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Ericsbrother: visited area on foot and was unable to take a picture of signage,(my phone) however you need to get up close to read it.

 

One phrase says 'no grace period given' how are you supposed to read it without getting out of a vehicle?

 

i noticed a couple sitting in an unmarked bay, however it seems they may be able to take aerial photos'

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Ericsbrother: Thank you for the update.

 

I have all the paperwork and I will get you the pictures you require shortly. I am 'without car' currently and it was an 11 mile round trip on foot on Tuesday to discover my phone would not work!!

 

The point about my daughter. I logged the claim via my Gateway account but obviously put all her details in regarding the "offence" and the claim.

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Ericsbrother: Timeline Detail. Images will follow.

 

EURO PARKING SERVICES

 

1). PARKING CHARGE NOTICE

NOTICE TO KEEPER

ISSUE DATE:12/09/2018-CONTRAVENTION DATE 06/09/2018-CONTRAVENTION TIME 12.51

CONTRAVENTION-Not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space

Period of Parking-from 12.40.44 to 12.46.08 CHARGE-£100

 

2). FINAL REMINDER

DATE OF SENDING: 11/10/2018

BALANCE DUE:£100

 

3).LETTER BEFORE COURT ACTION

DATE OF SENDING:21/11/2018

BALANCE DUE:£160

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GLADSTONES SOLICITORS

 

4).LETTER BEFORE CLAIM

DATE OF SENDING: 22/02/2019

BALANCE DUE:£160

 

5). CLAIM FORM

DATE OF SENDING: 04/04/2019

AMOUNT CLAIMED-£166.14

COURT FEE-£25.00

LEGAL REPS' COSTS-£50.00

TOTAL AMOUNT- £241.14

 

 

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I can not get back on to the MCOL site it keeps flagging error or sending me back to HMRC and my tax details?

So I can't submit any defence electronically at the moment.

However it did confirm the AOS when I first logged in a week ago.

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Dx100uk. Point taken. I wasn't  sure that Ericsbrother was up to date with all my posts that's all. 

Singing from the same song sheet, so to speak and yes I have sent CPR.

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Ericsbrother: as always thank you the info' just getting a few bits together to visit the area; by bicycle. Should have images by teatime.

 

 There is a notice at the entrance, no ref. to parking within bays until the notice inside the area. See attached

 

Bear with me can't upload images

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I haven't but I've just had a response to the CPR 31. 14 from GLADSTONES with A4 pictures of the notices split up, although it doesn't demonstrate whether you can read them  from the drivers position. I've got docuscan so I will see if I can get them to you that route.

 

thanks as always 

 

Just spent a couple of hours on laptop converting to PDFs to then get locked out of my account. Determined to sort this out or I will boxing their ears myself.

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Ha ha.

Nothing gets past you.

 

What they have done is taken the notices and produced A4 copies having cut the signage into sections suggesting that is what is visible not what you actually see.

 

There is also one that refers to pre-authorised vehicles or something which definitely doesn't exist.

 

Its the software they have sent to the printers.

They have also added a picture of my daughter with her shopping??

(at least it shows she was using their retail outlets!!)

 

They have also suggested settling for a reasonable amount, whatever that is?,

 

I  have pictures of the signage in PDFs on another PC as requested, so hopefully when I've got it exactly right.

 

I will upload it.

 

Many thanks.

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Two of the PDFs do show the entrance sign from the drivers position . I stood in the centre of the road to take them. Ok I have the A4 bumph from the solicitors to refer to. Thanks as always 

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Dx 100uk thanks for that. I'm going to put the GLADSTONES stuff they sent me on here to try and show what the signage says, although it will be much larger than what you can see on the notice. When I get the chance I might take my third trip up to this location. 

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ERICSBROTHER: The sign at the entrance:-

PRIVATE LAND

    P

45 Minutes Free

.   Parking For

. Chamberlain 

Building Retail

Units Patrons Only

 

See signs on site for full

terms and conditions 

 

Operated by: Euro Parking Services Ltd

Registered in England and Wales(09370159)

 

I wil get another picture of this notice asap.

 

i read the 'Invitation to treat' and this seems to apply.

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Brassnecked they have provided images with different times on but there was someone (no ID) with a mobile phone taking pictures of the car as well?

 

The images from GLADSTONES are from an ANPR because they are aerial shots.

 

thanks for the info'

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