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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
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      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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HXCPM/Gladstones vanishing Windscreen PCN claimform - Flipped Ticket - St Georges Car Park, Fitzwilliam St, Huddersfield ***Claim Dismissed***


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That was as expected though.

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A ticket was displayed so if no "express" written condition on signage as to it's orientation on a dash or windsscreen they are knackered, you paid end of.

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Oh if only Gladdys could be caught on Champerty & Maintenance. Thry always seem to advise the PPC to do court, but get paid win lose or withdraw.

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  • dx100uk changed the title to HXCPM/Gladstones vanishing Windscreen PCN claimform - Flipped Ticket - St Georges Car Park, Fitzwilliam St, Huddersfield
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Looks OK, the regulars will no doubt have a look and comment then you should be good to go.

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You want a Hearing, that email is the usual Gladdys trick to engineer a Default Judgment by getting the victim(defendant) to agree to let their dodgy POC and fictional WS be unchallenged at a hearing.

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If you did give out e,mail block it  and send them a letter stating you do not accept Legal Documents via email,  date it and keep a copy. as they like to send stuff at 11:59 pm the day before court and claim you had the info requested.

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Other thing is that point 8

 

"8. Notwithstanding the above, the Criminal Case of Elliott v Loake 1983 Crim LR 36 held that the
Registered Keeper of a vehicle may be presumed to have been the driver unless they sufficiently
rebut this presumption. The Court is therefore invited to conclude it more likely than not that
the Registered Keeper (i.e. the Defendant) was the driver."

 

He has shot himself in the foot trying to use Elliott v Loake as a belt and braces to prove keeper is Driver.  It's criminal, so not applicable in a Civil claim, that is explored on prankster's blog where it has been disregarded by the judge, as in a Criminal case there is a duty and a penalty if keeper doesn't name the driver, no such obligation in a Civil case.

https://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/search?q=elliott+v+loake

 

Other point is if Gladdys use the usual, the matter is simple so proposes an "On The Papers" hearing, insist on a court appearence as on the papers is an easy default for them as they don't want anything dodgy, like a de minimus upside down ticket displayed, proving no actual loss being aired.

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Mitigation is used as a plea for leniency, how can you mitigate something you have not done wrong?  I wouldn't use it as a term in a WS as it might give the judge ideas that you are admitting to something.

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Personally I would avoid the term in any legal submission, as it is construed differently in Law than it's use in IT or business, or H & S as in mitigating risk.  It is used as a means to reduce a sentence in a guilty plea, say for speeding at 35 in a 30 as you were rushing someone to hospital about to give birth etc.   A judge may see it in the legal context, not how we would understand it  in IT or business.   In a legal context someone who is found guilty or admitted guilt would use mitigating circumstances to try to get a reduced sentence.

 

I would await ericsbrother's comments as he will be able to put a good realistic perspective on it.

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Almost there, but again the use of Mitigation at 2.9.1 is harmful, to your case imho, others may well add thoughts

 

"2.9.1 The mitigating circumstances outlined in this complaint were dismissed out of hand, and
the Claimant insisted the PCN was [in their opinion] issued correctly and fairly.
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The fact the ticket although flipped was seen in the pics by the operator.  You had paid, the position of the ticket is de-minmis and irrelevant a  claim of mitigation is admitting to a breach of their cockamamy alleged T & Cs, you cannot mitigate lack of guilt,  that is how a judge might see it in the legal context, and take it as admission of breaching their T & Cs.

Others may have  further thoughts. as that is my view, I wouldn't use  any reference to a mitigation in a WS.  Could do with ericsbrother's input before final edit.

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Excellent, looks like one judge has come to the end of their rope with Gladdy's.

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