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Hello All, I received a PCN from HX Car Park Management in the mail a few weeks ago. The contravention was that the pay and display ticket was face down. The "charge" was £100, discounted to £60 if paid quickly. Needless to say, I appealed, pointing out that: I would not identify the driver. There was no suggestion that the daily parking fee was not paid. Their photographs show a ticket displayed on the dashboard. The tickets issued at this car park are a different colour each day making it obvious that a valid ticket had been purchased. These is an attendant on duty to take payment, making parking without paying the fee extremely unlikely The tickets issued do not make any reference to the terms and conditions, merely point out that "parking at own risk" No loss has been suffered by the owners of the car park HX should have enquired with the attendant as to the validity of the ticket in my vehicle. No notice was attached to the vehicle, nothing to indicate anything was amiss until the PCN arrived in the post. That this behaviour strikes me as a predatory and underhand tactic That this was a "Fluttering Ticket" caused by the wind at the time or soon after the driver left the vehicle, A reference to case C8GF30W7 Link Parking v Mr H, 14/11/2016 Port Talbot, where the court rules it was the responsibility of the parking company to provide self adhesive tickets. That the signage is confusing, instructing motorists to "park in marked bays". This car park is on rough ground and not a single marked bay is present. This makes any "contract" void. That their obtaining keeper details from the DVLA was most likely unlawful. It will come as no surprise that the appeal was rejected, since HX act as judge, jury and executioner in such cases. So I have also appealed further to the IPC, pointing out the same. HX's response is the same old BS … that the driver breached the terms and conditions and I am liable for the PCN. I now have a few days remaining to add any further information to the IPC appeal before the adjudication. Any suggestions as to anything else I might add? Am I wasting my time fighting this? Have I gone too far and should I just pay these blood suckers to go away ? -- skeet23