Liberty Printers Windscreen PCN St Georges Hosp Tooting Obsttruction No Red Lines No Yellow Lines

[Iron_Horse]

On 11/05/2018 at 12:36 I was amazed to spot a gap in the red and yellow lines on the hospital perimeter road close to the Willow Annexe which I was visiting for pre surgery assessment.

 

Since I have very troublesome arthritic knees and ankles only having a 200 yd walk was like a gift from the gods.

The gap in the lines was twice the size my car would need and I assumed that whoever had been parked there must have just moved.

I parked up and went off to my appointment.

 

When I came back, to my astonishment there was a ticket on the windscreen.

I took some photos to prove I was not on red or yellow lines, got in the car, opened the plastic envelope and found that the accusation was, in fact, "Causing Obstruction".

 

he perimeter road in that area is wide enough for two buses at least to pass each other,

I wasn't obstructing the road, and I certainly wasn't obstructing the footpath.

 

Any advice as to whether they can make this stick would be appreciated.

 

I have not yet contacted Liberty Printers who issued the Parking Charge, which says £80 or £40 if paid within 14 days.

Edited May 19, 2018 by dx100uk
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[dx100uk]

whatever coloured lines they mean nowt on private land purely tarmac graffiti

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?462118-Have-you-received-a-Parking-Ticket-(1-Viewing)-nbsp

please complete the above

[Iron_Horse]

It is a Parking Charge

 

1. 15/05/2018 at 12:36

2. No I have not appealed yet

No I have not received an NTK

5. Liberty Printers

6. St Georges Hospital, Tooting, London SW18

 

[dx100uk]

thank you

sit on your hands await the NTK which must arrive between 29-56 days no sooner no later

 

in the mean time

when you get a chance

photos of all the signs

their position

small print

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also the signs BEFORE you enter the complete site

inc their viewablity from the public highway.

[lookinforinfo]

I wouldn't bother about it and would certainly not pay it.

Liberty look as if they have been going for around 3 years and to date have not issued any Court claims.

[silverfox1961]

Hi

I am currently looking on Google Streetview around the hospital and I have managed to locate the Willow annexe but I am having extreme difficulty locating where you parked. If you were driving along the road with the annexe on the left, did you park before it or after? I have located a tree space parking just around the corner where there is a staff pay and display machine which looks to me an ideal spot but if you could pinpoint us to the exact area and take some pictures of where you actually parked and the surroundings, this will help us-a lot!

 

 

I did notice that it is a one way system in parts so I would agree that buses could pass with ease.

 

 

So pictures of the site and the signs nearby and wait for the NTK.

[ericsbrother]

Yellow lines are interpreted by judges to mean what they want them to, red lines have no common usage. What about green lines or purple ones?

 

Wait for the NTK as suggested and chances are they have got that wrong and you are home and dry without any effort on your part.

 

Reasons why you were there never come into it so no need to even mention them as you wont get anywhere as a result

As for causing obstruction, that MUST be one of the written contractual clauses offered by the signage or it doesnt exist. That may get the parking co into hot water if it is the case but agin that is for the future.

Edited May 21, 2018 by honeybee13
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[dx100uk]

one multipage pdf please

so we can zoom

read upload

 

dx

[ericsbrother]

they are apparrently relying on clause 4 of ther contract regarding parking to inconvenience others.

well, if the car park is full and I want to park there can I ticket someone else who is alreday there because I am inconvenienced?

 

Also they mangle the english language so you agree to a statement that is prohibitive and that means the only way of forming that contract is to breach it!

We cant tell from what you have posted how the signs refer to the site as a whole and where you were in particular so it may not be applicable at all

[Iron_Horse]

Hopefully I have cracked it and this is what you need.

Pics & Info for CAG.pdf

[dx100uk]

seem ok just a few blank pages at the start well done

thread tidied

[ericsbrother]

the last photo is actually quite telling. Esentially if you have a condition and dont enforce it then it dissapears due to dereliction. As the cluase is subjective the lack of tckets on these vehicles means that that cluase is worthless as it is subjective and thus either unfair or because of their action and inaction confusing. It isnt like a motoring offence where if you get done for speeding you cant say that it is unfair that others didnt get caught, this is about the necessity to enforce a contract or it doesnt exist

[silverfox1961]

Well, your pictures (7 & 8) do not show any obstruction that I could think of. You were not parked on the pathway. The sign you have posted of the entry sign is way too small to form any contract. How is a driver able to stop and read the terms without causing an obstruction??

The road layout is one way only and there is plenty of room to park. Just before where you parked is a staff car park and just after is an area for the lorries. There could be no obstruction, simple as!

 

 

You will get a NTK eventually then I think that you should appeal (your choice of course) but don't name the driver. ONLY say "The Driver". Never say "I" in any respect to you being the driver.