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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
    • Not sure what to make of that or what it means for me, I was just about to head to my kip and it's a bit too late for legalise. When is the "expenditure occured"?  When they start spending money to write to me?  Or is this a bad thing (as "harsh" would imply)? When all is said and done, I do not have two beans to rub together, we rent our home and EVERYTHING of value has been purchased by and is in my wife's name and we are not financially linked in any way.  So at least if I can't escape my fate I can at least know that they will get sweet FA from me anyway   edit:  ah.. Sophia Harrison: Time bar decision tough on claimants WWW.SCOTTISHLEGAL.COM Time bar is a very complex area of law in Scotland relating to the period in which a claim for breach of duty can be pursued. The Scottish government...   This explains it like I am 5.  So, a good thing then because creditors clearly know they have suffered a loss the minute I stop paying them, this is why it is "harsh" (for them, not me)? Am I understanding this correctly?  
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Yes Sham.i have checked my credit report and there is no indications of my repayments. just account start date of 15/10/2011, opening balance of £123, then date of default 21/08/2012 and default balance of £123. Before all sorts of charges..

i honestly cant remember the activities of the account clearly, thats why i want to be very cautious. Will it be wise to put a tomlin offer first on the table for the default sum (£123) otherwise demand a supplemental? really would not mind settling the default sum to avoid using my time to attend a hearing,.

 

Though i reason that if the account start date was 15/10/2011 and the payment was monthly and default was 21/08/2012 there certainly would have been payment activites in between the dates don't you think?

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I would only submit a supplemental if it is really warranted and has merit and is vital in supporting your initial witness statement, court view could be to disregard it as it becomes tit for tat.

 

Yes the minimum is 3 days

 

Andy

 

Hi Andy, thanks for that. So what will you advise at this stage going forward, i hate to think that the claimant seems to have a upper hand the way it stands now, a Tomlin maybe??

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Hi Andy, thanks for that. So what will you advise at this stage going forward, i hate to think that the claimant seems to have a upper hand the way it stands now, a Tomlin maybe??

 

You could prepare a skeleton argument..this can be additional to your witness statement..which would get your further points across to the court at the hearing

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You could prepare a skeleton argument..this can be additional to your witness statement..which would get your further points across to the court at the hearing

 

Ok Andy but what bases will i be arguing on, default notices,faulty goods,itemised statement ?

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Ok Andy but what bases will i be arguing on, default notices,faulty goods,itemised statement ?

 

Is that not already in your main witness statement? I thought you was considering submitting a supplemental WS..because of further matters raised by the claimant in their late WS ?

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Is that not already in your main witness statement? I thought you was considering submitting a supplemental WS..because of further matters raised by the claimant in their late WS ?

 

No Andy,

i have been reading claimants WS and seems to me that there was no other issues apart from them not supplying the itemised statement, a default notice and how the arrived at amount with legality of charges.

 

Please tell me is a tomlin without prejudice .. and what could be the likely response to a Tomlin request?

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Is that not already in your main witness statement? I thought you was considering submitting a supplemental WS..because of further matters raised by the claimant in their late WS ?

 

You advised Kay not to send a supplemental WS, Andy (unless it added value). Would it be beneficial to draw attention to the £300-odd of default charges prior to any hearing, or address it there and then and hope for the best? (leaving aside the returns dispute for a minute)

 

I'm also mindful that Kay has mentioned several times that they don't want to go to court, so maybe another WS would lay some groundwork for a favourable settlement offer.....or could this simply be mentioned as part of any settlement discussions. Something tells me that Lowell won't back down much on this anyway due to the relatively low claim amount.

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If it adds value then by all means submit either a skeleton or a supplemental WS to refute the points raised....but time is of the essence.

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Why the panic to submit Witness Statement by 19th October if the hearing is so far away?

 

Part of the directions Sham.....ours is not to question why:roll:

 

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that each party must deliver to the other party and to the court office copies of all documents on which that party intends to rely on no later than 19/10/16

 

that the documents to be sent to the other party and the court must include the statements of all witnesses(including the parties themselves)"

 

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Cheers Andy. I just found it strange that there was such a large gap between disclosure and the hearing...couldn't remember if directions had been posted up. :-)

 

Thanks all.i actually now cant lay my hands on the directions any more seems i have lost it. Will need to call the court to have another sent so i can post it here. mean time any suggestion on my next actions? any advise really appreciated,.

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Personally thinking of writing a very robust Tomlin with any help here as i have'nt done that before.

 

It is normally the claimant that drafts the Tomlin Order...not the defendant...but you can negotiate its contents if not happy.

 

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It is normally the claimant that drafts the Tomlin Order...not the defendant...but you can negotiate its contents if not happy.

 

Andy

 

Thanks Andy,but how do i initiate it? i mean do i just write to the claimant asking it to consider an out of court settlement for xx amount without charges ,?

i have researched some threads here but have not stumbled on any with this order,.

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Simply inform the claimant that you " may " be open to settlement subject to amount and conditions and would consider wrapping this up by way of a Tomlin Order...if they are in agreement...then the balls in their court.

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Simply inform the claimant that you " may " be open to settlement subject to amount and conditions and would consider wrapping this up by way of a Tomlin Order...if they are in agreement...then the balls in their court.

 

Thanks Andy. guess the header will be "without prejudice", as i hope it won't influence or be used as an exhibit in court just in case?

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Thanks Andy. guess the header will be "without prejudice", as i hope it won't influence or be used as an exhibit in court just in case?

 

Header ? Simply ring them and suggest it...assuming this is the way you want conclude the matter

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Header ? Simply ring them and suggest it...assuming this is the way you want conclude the matter

 

ok thanks Andy,but really not too many options or is there? . will leave updates cheers.

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I would personally send the settlement offer via email. Perhaps ask if they would consider reaching an amicable settlement outside of court. See what figure, if any, they suggest. They may knock £50 or something of that nature off, but you can return with something like... "Having considered all aspects of the claim, I feel a settlement figure of [for example] £150 would reflect a fair outcome for both parties." Then see what they say.

 

If you get no joy then I'd personally hit them with a supplemental Witness Statement that directly challenges the legal nature of £300-odd charges that have been applied to the account. Then see if they're any more amenable.

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Thanks Sham and apologies for taking this long to acknowledge, 'urgent private matter'.

 

 

Please see below draft for offer i intend to mail to claimant tomorrow and kindly advise, thanks..

 

Lowell Portfolio 1 Ltd

 

c/o Bwlegal

 

Claim number xxxxxx

 

Re Lowell Portfolio 1 Ltd V xxxx

 

 

Offer of out of court settlement

 

I am hereby writing to notify you that i may be open to an out of court settlement for

 

the above claim subject to amount of claim and condition of payment and will consider

 

sealing an amicable agreement by way of a Tomlin order.

 

I make this offer with the intention of both parties saving time a further resources on this case.

 

I look forward to your reasonable consideration of this offer.

 

yours faithfully

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Hi all. so i made an out of court offer of £150 which was turned down and claimant asked for an improved offer if possible,

any thoughts on this pls. also advised that a Tolim order attracts a £100 pound fee so may be better off with other agreement. pls is this

true/advisable, anybody kindly advise,.? thanks

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