Coventry man jailed for wilfully refusing to pay council tax

[lamma]

Two Words - Carla Buckle

[citizenB]

Two Words - Carla Buckle

 

In case anyone was wondering

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2887017/Grandmother-jailed-unpaid-council-tax-freed-time-Christmas-online-appeal-raised-pay-debts.html

[Conniff]

Two Words - Carla Buckle

 

In case anyone was wondering

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2887017/Grandmother-jailed-unpaid-council-tax-freed-time-Christmas-online-appeal-raised-pay-debts.html

 

But that shouldn't happen, he can afford to pay, he just don't want to.

[AndyOrch]

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[E Munch]

There is no ability to make deductions from state pension for Council Tax arrears. The bit someone (Citizen B) quoted from above was talking about pension credit which is something different and is an attachable allowance. Councils would love the power to deduct from the state pension as there are some very obstinate old people out there. Me included!

[brassnecked]

There is no ability to make deductions from state pension for Council Tax arrears. The bit someone (Citizen B) quoted from above was talking about pension credit which is something different and is an attachable allowance. Councils would love the power to deduct from the state pension as there are some very obstinate old people out there. Me included!

LOL, long may you continue to be obstinate, especially if you are right and the council are wrong.

[citizenB]

There is no ability to make deductions from state pension for Council Tax arrears. The bit someone (Citizen B) quoted from above was talking about pension credit which is something different and is an attachable allowance. Councils would love the power to deduct from the state pension as there are some very obstinate old people out there. Me included!

 

Ah, I didn't realise that - I thought they were able to take money from a state pension. Although I would have thought taking it from their pension credit would create some real problems as that is a benefit that is given when pensioners are living below the poverty level isn't it ?

 

Mind you taking it from some pensions would also create similar problems if they didn't have a company pension as well !

[brassnecked]

Ah, I didn't realise that - I thought they were able to take money from a state pension. Although I would have thought taking it from their pension credit would create some real problems as that is a benefit that is given when pensioners are living below the poverty level isn't it ?

 

Mind you taking it from some pensions would also create similar problems if they didn't have a company pension as well !

Whole thing is a can of worms, as deductions from benefit are often unaffordable also and lead to people not eating, unable to feed a prepay meter etc. etc.

[citizenB]

There is no ability to make deductions from state pension for Council Tax arrears. The bit someone (Citizen B) quoted from above was talking about pension credit which is something different and is an attachable allowance. Councils would love the power to deduct from the state pension as there are some very obstinate old people out there. Me included!

 

Whole thing is a can of worms, as deductions from benefit are often unaffordable also and lead to people not eating, unable to feed a prepay meter etc. etc.

 

So they set the bailiffs on them instead ! The mind boggles.

[brassnecked]

So they set the bailiffs on them instead ! The mind boggles.

 

And increase the debt by a factor of 5 thereby rendering it less payable than it originally was. Bailiffs and enforcement are a conundrum without solution.

[E Munch]

The attachable benefits and allowances are theoretically set at a level to enable payment of statutory obligations and if the recipients don't use them to do that the state goes in to get it. If nothing else it is fairer for those that do pay their obligations. If there was no sanction the proportion of non payers would increase.

I saw it nicely summed up in a motto on a calendar. "If one half of the world knew how the other half lived, they wouldn't pay their bills either."

[citizenB]

The attachable benefits and allowances are theoretically set at a level to enable payment of statutory obligations and if the recipients don't use them to do that the state goes in to get it. If nothing else it is fairer for those that do pay their obligations. If there was no sanction the proportion of non payers would increase.

I saw it nicely summed up in a motto on a calendar. "If one half of the world knew how the other half lived, they wouldn't pay their bills either."

 

In a perfect world we would all pay our obligations. However, as per the motto on your Calendar - the other half eg the poorer half - have recognised that the richer half are NOT paying their obligations.. Tax loopholes/avoidance -below poverty level salaries, etc, etc.

 

How many retired persons are having to go cap in hand to the state for top ups to their pensions. Did they not contribute sufficiently whilst they were working (if they were working).

 

Although it is fairly obvious the Coventry man was refusing to pay having admitted it. I think we should stop assuming that all council tax debtors are simply refusing to pay.

 

I thought it was right that those on benefits should pay even something toward the Council Tax, but was sufficient thought put into just how badly their income (from whatever source) would be hit with not just the CT, but Housing benefit reductions as well.