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    • Ok, so just been to see my friend, she still has her head firmly in the sand and had a pile of unopened post, thankfully nothing serious apart from this case!    In answer to your question it says N24 General Directions Order at the bottom of the page, then on page 2 where the line says "As a result of an order made on the 1 May 2024, this claim has been transferred to the county court at ##### (friends local court) " this is N271 Notice of transfer of proceedings.  Within the stack of letters I found 2 from Kearns Solicitors,    02-12-2022 Document pack with covering letter stating under the s78 CCA please see enclosed  1) A copy of the executed Credit Agreement, 2)  A copy of the terms & conditions 3) A copy of the varied terms & conditions applicable at termination / assignment, and  4) A statement regarding the conduct of your account as requested by s78(1)(a) to (c)  (Would you like me to describe the documents attached?)   18-02-2023 Generic letter asking for her to contact them to discuss settlement or they will take to court for further legal action. 
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    • Okay understood now just based on personal experience how long does this go on for 
    • civil recovery schemes run by the likes of RLP DWF etc etc are a scam. totally IGNORE EVERYTHING. no if's or but's dx  
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CPR 31.14 is here

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?387484-LEGAL-CPR-31.14-Request-Request-for-information-when-a-Claim-has-been-issued.(1-Viewing)-nbsp

 

Remember you can only request items that are mentioned in the Particulars of Claim.

 

If the date of issue on the claim form is 15 July then you must acknowledge by 2nd August and then your defence must be submitted by 16 August.

 

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don't send anything to carter not worth it

you'll get a template reply

 

send CPR & CCA request to lowells

 

as I detailed above.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Clynite I already have a defence drafted for the very same claim particulars...give me a nudge when you are ready to submit.

 

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andyorch that's a weight of my mind, many thanks for your help.

 

 

ims21 has kindly informed me that the defence has to be submitted by 16 Aug. I have sent cca/cpr31.14 requests and await response.

 

 

I take it, defence will be submitted based on what comes from these requests.

 

 

Thank you Andy

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If empire were related to shop direct then last payment was made July 2008, according to her old bank statement.

 

Empire was FULLY took over by SD from Redcats Brand in July 2008. Empire are still owned by SD but trade as woolworths/kandco. I no this as l around the same time as your friend had a empire account and Mine was unenforcable as they never had a cca from Redcats.

 

I have 2 threads on the matter one about they buy out and one about empire.

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Link details:

 

Name of Claimant: Lowell Portfolio ltd re: Lowell financial ltd

Date of issue: 15 July 20014

 

Particulars of claim:

 

This claim is for £** the amount due under an agreement between the original creditor

and the defendant to provide finance and / or services and /or goods.

 

This debt was assigned to /purchased by Lowell Portfolio I Ltd on 26/05/2009

and notice served pursuant to the law of property act 1925

 

Particulars Re : Shop Direct A/C no ********

 

And the claimant claims £***

The claimant also claims interest pursuant to s69 county court act 1984 from (date) to date at 8% per annum amounting to £***

 

Value of claim: £540

 

Total claim includes interest and legal fees

 

claim not for current or credit/loan or mobile account

 

Original agreement entered into pre 2007.

( I am still wading through friends bank statements for details but have found so far entries at 2006 will look further back when I can)

 

Claim has been issued by debt purchaser

 

No notice of assignment just threating letters from Lowells

 

No default notices from original creditor

 

No statutory notices received

 

Last payments appears to be July 2008

 

Goods were returned to catalogue and account never credited hence the alleged debt. Never resolved

 

Hope that helps, how do I submit a cca request etc

Thank you

 

Based on the info provided, the agreement being Pre 2007, this IS a old redcates brand account so DONT expect anything re a cca from Lowell/littlewoods.

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FWIW redcats went Shop direct 12th July 2008.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Redcats are still about

http://www.laredoute.co.uk/terms.aspx

 

 

Customer Service

 

We are committed to providing a high standard of service to all our customers and treating them fairly. There may be times when you don’t feel we've lived up to this. If this happens, we want to hear from you. Letting us know when you are unhappy with the service you experience gives us the opportunity to put matters right and to improve our service in the future for everybody. Our dedicated staff are committed to working with you on your complaint and to resolving it to your satisfaction. You can share your concerns with them by phone, by letter or e-mail as shown below:

Address: The Complaints Team, Redcats (Brands) Limited, 2 Holdsworth Street, Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD1 4AH.

Telephone: 033 0303 0199 - 9am-5pm Monday-Friday.

E-mail: [email protected].

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Thanks for the info and advice. I have checked neighbours credit file and it states this account was started in 1993 (missed that info first time).

 

 

I may be a little naïve, but thought I couldn't submit a defence until requests have been received. I don't want to get this wrong after assuring my friend of my help. If I can submit defence before any docs arrive, then I definitely will. I only want to act in my friends best interests. I realise, if I get it wrong, she could suffer as a result of my actions.

andyorch has kindly offered to help with the defence, which is a great help.

Can someone advise on when best to submit defence please.

Thanks to everyone for input

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You must submit a defence within the court time scales otherwise there will be a judgement by default.

 

You may not get a reply to the CPR but not much you can do about that.

 

Their failure to respond the CCA request (if they do fail) can be used in the defence.

 

Andyorch will help you with the defence but you do not need to be filing it yet. Just keep an eye on the timeline.

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Have received a reply to cpr31.14 from Carter sols. ( also sent request to lowells )

 

They confirm claim was issued via Northampton Court, and that the courts protocol was followed when issuing the claimants particulars of claim.

 

Practice direction 7C point 1.4 ( 3A ) eliminates the requirement to attach the documents to the POC when they are issued by this court.

 

They confirm that the matter will most properly be allocated to the small claims track as this is a simple contractual matter

and part 31 of the CPR will therefore not apply.

 

In any event the Notices of Default and Assignment left the control of the Claimant when they were dispatched to you.

 

It is the original creditors policy to issue agreements at the start of the contract and statements throughout the duration of the agreement and, in this regard, we ask you to refer to your own records.

 

We confirm our client is not agreeable to an extension for filing your defence.

 

A claim was issued on **/july and we are not in receipt of your acknowledgement of service.

 

Please respond using the response pack provided by the court.

 

Comply with the court deadlines in order to avoid a default judgement being entered against you.

 

 

That's about it. can anyone explain what this means please?

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std rubbish crap ignore it.

 

still has to provide paperwork

 

if you look at the other carter threads

 

you'll see the exact wording everytime

 

if this goes true to form..he'll discontinue close to the date.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I make your defence deadline midnight 16th

 

do not miss it no matter what happens

 

dx

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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As dx says he by now 'should' no the rules. If you want write back advising him of this

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no point in writing to carter whatsoever.

 

let him discontinue

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Oh remember to keep a eye on costs aswell. You could always attempt a wasted costs order against him. Ok he does not like them and tries to say not his fault but if u dont try u dont get.

Claim for printing time postage etc

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Please remember the only stupid question is the one you dont ask so dont worry about asking the stupid questions.

 

Essex girl in pc world looking 4 curtains 4 her pc,the assistant says u dont need curtains 4 a computer!!Essex girl says,''HELLOOO!! i,ve got WINDOWS!!'.

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