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Unfortunately my business came to a pretty sudden ending, 2 dead months and things effectively stopped dead.

 

The only real debt I had was £1150 to a Postage Franking provider for postage.

 

I did agree to pay them £50 a week but in honestly it was too much and after a couple of weeks I stopped.

I was just a sole trader so the debt is in my name.

 

This morning I've received a default notice off them, its dated 29th May 2014 in an envelope dated 03/06/14

giving me 5 working days from the date on the letter to make payment via a cleared method.

 

By my maths the entire thing is totally impossible and the date to settle has long passed.

 

The letter states that they will now be adding interest and pursuing legal action, court etc. They also state that they will be be claiming damages.

 

Can anyone advise the best way to go from here?,

 

I am willing to pay via instalments more realistically i.e. £20-25 a week which I can afford but is there a way of going about this?.

 

Should I keep the mess that is the default notice to myself?,

 

its pretty much catch 22, even if you got it the day after the letter date to pay within within the 5 working days

would be tight as cleared payment would take 3 days anyway.

 

Any advice you can offer would be appreciated.

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dn's have to give 14 clear days + postage

 

2 for 1st , 4 for 2nd.

 

have you checked your credit file

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi thanks for replying.

Nothing on my Experian infact I don't think its ever been on there unless it is on one of the others

I would of found a way of paying this so if they have left anything on my record I will really not be happy.

It is definitely a consumer credit agreement as I've just found the original agreement which was printed and returned.

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Hi thanks for replying.

Nothing on my Experian infact I don't think its ever been on there unless it is on one of the others

I would of found a way of paying this so if they have left anything on my record I will really not be happy.

It is definitely a consumer credit agreement as I've just found the original agreement which was printed and returned.

Is this Pitney Bowes or a similar company?

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Yes its PB.

As far as I am aware PB only report to CRA/ Business refs once a problem arises.

Is the debt purely for their services in providing/managing the machine?

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Right default and termination received and they have now passed to a debt collector.

Seems the default notice was not served under the cca, unsure if this makes any difference?

They are adding interest at £70 a month.

I did try and arrange with them the other month but they were just making no sense to my emails.

 

Something that does confuse me, if they have terminated the contract then can they keep adding interest?, seems they state its commercial interest although this is not mentioned in the agreement just by the debt collector.

 

It states the following in the terms of the agreement.

 

 

"If this Agreement is terminated for any reasons during the Minimum Period you must pay to us all amounts already due to us including any Interest payable on those amounts together with any expenses and costs incurred by us due to your failure to keep to the Terms of this Agreement plus all Rentals which would have been

 

payable by you for the duration of the Minimum Period.

 

Where you fail to pay us any Purchase Power sum on its due date we will charge you late payment interest calculated on an average daily balance basis at a rate of

 

0.0497% per day compounded monthly and also a late payment fee of £12 each time you pay late.

 

Other Charges: The following Clauses set out details of other charges that are or may be payable by you under this Agreement Clauses 3.3; a.l [d]: a.2[bl and 10.3."

 

8.2 You will (a) have a period of up to 25 days, from the date of your statement which includes the transactions charged to your account, to repay the full outstanding balance of the account. The full amount must be paid in a single payment; (b) Transaction Fee for Meter reset is £6.84 per Meter reset. © Where you fail to pay us any Purchase Power sum on its due date we will charge you late payment interest calculated on an average daily balance basis at a rate of 0.0497% per day compounded monthly and also a late payment fee of £12 each time you pay late.

8.3 If this Agreement is terminated, your Purchase Power arrangement will be cancelled automatically. Any amounts due by you to us under the Purchase Power arrangement will become immediately due and payable on cancellation.

.8 If this Agreement is terminated for any reasons during the Minimum Period you must pay to us all amounts already due to us including any interest payable on those amounts together with any expenses and costs incurred by us due to your failure to keep to the Terms of this Agreement plus all Rentals which would have been payable by you for the duration of the Minimum Period less a discount at the rate of 3% per annum from the date each payment would have fallen due to the termination date.

 

However surely once they terminated the contract they lost the right to charge that?.

 

 

Any advice would be much appreciated..

 

Ps I should point out that I've not done a cca, I am just using the agreement I signed and scanned back, infact for this reason I can categorically guarantee that they only have a scan of any agreement.

 

Is it worth me doing a cca?

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I don't think this is a CCA 1974 (as amended)n regulated agreement, more of a service contract, you can of course demand a copy of it.

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Its a hire agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974.

 

Ive drafted a CCA request to send.

 

My stance at the moment is that I do acknowledge the debt and wish to make an agreement to repay however i'm pretty annoyed at them adding 18%pa interest because I have tried to arrange repayment with them only to receive generic scripted responses.

 

Seems EAME are PB's in house collections, can't find any info online about them.

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Right update.

Have had a solicitors letter requesting payment or threatening court if not paid by wednesday

however the amount requested has gone up considerably.

 

The interest has gone up which I am ok with and there is £70 compensation which apparently is correct

and they are entitled to however the base account has shot up.

 

The last letter from EAME was asking for £70 compensation + £25 interest,

this is asking for £70 and £75 respectively but the base amount has gone up £200.

Are they allowed to do so?

 

The 18% is compounded monthly and I imagine that is correct but the total amount asked for now is about £1450

where as it was £1166 late July. £300 seems a lot.

 

I am now in a position to pay this off

however I don't want to be paying too much,

this is being paid for from some inheritance.

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There is one thing.

I have tried to return the printer but just can't get them to call back, emailed and left voicemails. I am wondering if they could be billing me for the printer?

 

 

You should drop them a letter by recorded delivery telling them that you are charging them £5 per day for space until they pick it up.

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Its legal charges. £220 for a letter haha.

 

I have ready a cheque for the debt + the interest and compensation and I'm telling them to jump for the legal fees. From what I understand it would have to be clearly written in the signed agreement otherwise they might be awarded them if it got to court but the amount asked for is hideous. Guessing that is 4 hours labour they've charged for, wow.

 

Heres my letter, not sure what you think before I post it?

 

 

Date

 

Your Ref:

 

Dear sirs

 

I am in receipt of your letter dated Date

 

Please find enclosed a cheque for £money. This is made up of the amount owed to Pitney Bowes + the interest and compensation they are entitled to.

 

With reference to your request for legal charges. I will not be paying these because:

 

A. I do not believe I signed any agreement where I agreed to pay any such charges.

B. Even if I had ever agreed to pay them I do not believe them to be correct.

 

Further to this I think that adding these charges to the original debt without making it clear seems a little underhanded. I was only told of these by email after asking why the original balance had gone up such a large amount. I see no reason why these were not clearly laid out in your original letter as you did with the interest and compensation.

 

I will only discuss the charges further if you provide me with a signed original agreement that clearly showing where I agreed to pay any such legal charges and a full detailed breakdown of how you came to £figure. If you wish to contact me further my email address is above or write to me.

 

I trust this has clarified my position.

 

 

Yours Faithfully.

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You should drop them a letter by recorded delivery telling them that you are charging them £5 per day for space until they pick it up.

 

 

I intend on doing so but i'll go straight to PB with that. Saying that maybe they don't want it back?

 

Its hilarious though, none of PB phone numbers work now. Ive started using myhermes through interparcel and its costing me £2.30 for a 1kg parcel, even with franking royal mail can never compete with that and its just such hard work in comparison. Drop at the shop 30 yards from more door at 9pm and delivered within a couple of days.

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Cheque sent for amount including entitled interest and charges but excluding the legal charges, they cashed it and I've heard nothing back in that area.

Sent an email regarding the printer and the next day had an email from a nice lady who told me to pack it up and collected it the next day via ups.

Bonus today I got a cheque for £39 from Royal mail for unused postage on the printer.

 

Ive had nothing to say that account is cleared or any acknowledgement but from what I see the only amount they could possibly demand now is the legal charges and no news is good news, nothing from them in a month so fingers crossed this is done.

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