CSA Payments

[PeterM68]

Hi all,

 

My ex-wife and I divorced over 10 years ago and I was paying regular monthly payments for my 2 girls. As part of the divorce, she got a court order saying I needed to provide P60s each year. She has never asked for them. About 4 years ago she decided to go through the CSA even though I have never missed a payment.

 

I recently lost my job but continued paying out of my redundancy money. That is now running out and I contacted the CSA to reduce the payments.

 

My ex and I have never had a good relationship since splitting up and she is now throwing her toys out of the pram and saying I need to provide P60s for the last three years. Fortunately I have a new job, which pays less, but means she'll only miss 2 months full payment.

 

I'm happy to provide the P60 for this year, but I don't see why she can now go back and demand previous P60s seeing as she wanted to go through the CSA.

 

I have always provided for my children and it's only the current situation that has caused this to change.

 

Any thoughts on the P60 issue?

 

Kind regards, Peter

[Simon1959]

As she decided to go through the CSA you have no obligation to produce any P60 to her , as she decided to go through the CSA they now call the shots they decide how much you pay and how you pay not your ex wife

The minute my ex wife decided that the CSA were a more lucrative option the game changed

Much the same as you i had a decent job in the criminal justice system we agreed a payment figure that i should make monthly plus add on,s school bus , trips and the such like , the price for not going through the CSA was she kept the proceeds from the sale of the house to pay a deposit on a smaller house for her and the children for three years it worked well

Then i was made redundant i managed to get a new job at a supermarket , i then worked out the % and altered the standing order to pay the exact same % that i had previously paid 20% (5% less than the CSA would have took)

Not good enough for her it seemed CSA contact me tell me the new figure slightley more than i was already paying

From that day i pay what i,m told by the CSA i do what they tell me i pay nothing else no bus no trips no shoes no extras that would go into my ex wifes account the CSA are in charge

My wages, what i spend, where i go are nothing to do with her i pay my CSA as far as im concerned she is nothing more than my hired help

My kids come to see me when they like, i have no contact with my ex at all

When the children complain about mum wont buy me this, that and the other , i simply say i give your mum £121 a week towards your up keep what she does with that money is entirely up to her

The CSA are what they are i for one find it stressful dealing with them , but when its sorted its done and alot less stressful listening to some bitter and twisted ex banging on when things have gone sh** for her in her love life

[PeterM68]

So, does the fact that she now goes through the CSA negate the court order? I can't see how she can have it both ways to be honest. I've always paid directly to her account as she was happy with that even though she wanted the CSA to work it all out. I may now contact the CSA again and say I want it all done through them. She is very bitter and vindictive and any conversation I try to have with her ends up in an argument, which is not what I want.

 

You would not believe the texts I am now getting from her. Dictating when I can now see the girls (13 and 15) and telling me that I am not a responsible parent - we have them three days a week until 7-8pm (she won't let them sleep over as it affects the CSA money) and they sleep every other Friday night. The reason I left my previous job was that I was able to work from home and they wanted me in every day. I now have a job that is 30 mins from home and allows me to get home in time so that I can see them. My ex-wife works 20 minutes away and never gets home until 7pm. I don't want to judge her, just put things in perspective. I love my girls more than life and would do anything for them including giving up a good career to be able to see them.

 

If the court order is invalid, I can tell her that and then look to get my own court order to see the girls if necessary.

 

Thanks again for any advice given

 

Kind regards, Peter

[Simon1959]

Legally im not sure but i would have thought so , CSA Have trampled all over the court orders that were set up , just call her bluff Peter word of advice change your mobile number , if she comes around your house call the police they will remove her , restraining order

[PeterM68]

I have found this page http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/remanual/re1200.htm that seems to state that the court order my ex-wife has, is as Simon above says, invalid from the point at which she contacted the CSA. Can someone just confirm to make sure I am not going mad?

 

Kind regards, Peter

[PeterM68]

Hi Simon, I can put up with her whining and she wouldn't have the nerve to come to the house. Underneath it all she is quite a nasty person (her step-daughter hates her) but only likes to text and email! I do not like conflict so I don't put myself in the position of having an argument on the doorstep...

[Simon1959]

Just read that link i would think you are correct that a court order is invalid , beside that what can she do anyway the CSA will have that info so she would only be telling them what they already know