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    • pdf's merged and properly named. thread title updated. word fine replaced by charge in post one....they are not fines mere speculative invoices. just type no need to keep hitting quote.   dx  
    • Nice work dx, much what I thought and glad to have it confirmed by the expert. Radio silence remains my game plan, I have been resident in Scotland since birth and although I had moved a couple of years prior to defaulting, all addresses were updated and I am confident all begging letters are coming to my current home address. I appreciate the info that they probably wouldn't get a claim in by Aug anyway - I think I'll hunt out my big box of badness in the next few days just to see if I can find any default notice letters so I can pin down some dates to satisfy my semi-OCD. Much obliged, and unlike some others i will look to update in the future as I certainly intend to send them the SB letter as I like to pull the chains of these types of cretins! Of course i'll be back to confirm the correct procedure if I get any "proper" legal letters other than the usual Overdales toilet paper type of scare tactic.  
    • statute barring in Scotland is 5yrs from last payment/use date or date of default Notice + 14 days, whichever is the later. dont confuse that with the 6yrs debts show on credit files (DN's 6th bday regardless to payment or not). they'd never get a claim raised by august in 99% of cases . as long all these debts were taken out whilst resident in scotland and you have not moved since taking them out but failed to inform the original creditor before the debt sale....... then stay radio silent until sb date is reached. then if you wish send our scottish sb letter. just remember unlike E&W in scotland debts are extinguished, dead , gone , parrot. once SB'd dx  
    • Hi all, Love this site and it's no nonsense advice, have dipped in and out of the consumer forums over the years, mostly to assure myself that what I was doing was the right thing when dealing with various businesses (almost 100% success rate, thanks in part to reading and more reading here.). Anyway, the time is almost approaching where I might need to ask for some specific help and I have a couple of queries that I can't see definitively answered. Due to financial mismanagement and severe anxiety issues I stopped paying all unsecured debt in December 2018 (one slipped to the first week in Jan 2019 when the last payment was made having rechecked my bank statement from that period - all my unsecured debt direct debits were cancelled in early Jan 2019). This has left half a dozen debts;  a couple of credit cards, a bank loan, Shop Direct and some Hitachi Finance stuff having been sold on and passing the rounds through the usual suspects, Lowells, Link, PRA Group, others related to them, and then back to them again. I have somehow successfully managed to maintain radio silence and avoided anything more worrying than their begging letters.  I have blocked their phone calls and texts, bumped all emails to the spambox and had a chuckle at their desperate letters.  I've never had anybody at the door.  I have been at the same address since before I defaulted and all correspondence comes to my current home address.  I have NEVER contacted them or admitted any debt. In anticipation of them perhaps ramping up action at the last minute I've had a look at my credit report on Credit Karma (rec'd from this very place) and I see that the default dates on these range from May 2019 to November 2019. Also in preperation I've been reading, reading and reading lots here as advised. Obviously being in Scotland there are a lot fewer posts relating to these matters and it's always quite annoying when OP's do not follow up with any outcome on their cases - how rude! This has also left me a bit confused of when I am able to finally breathe easy (although cancelling all the direct debits in Jan 2019 was the biggest sigh of relief as I knew it was all going to be unmanageable and, well, default one, default all.). I've been reading that defaults should be filed 3-6 months after the missed payment but one of my larger debts was defaulted on 27th August 2019 when the last payment I made was 10th December 2018, meaning the first missed payment was 10th Jan 2019.   My query for now is - when should I infer that these debts are prescribed?  From when the payment was missed, or taking the default date plus 5 years from the credit report? The three I have with the May date are moot anyway as either way they are gone  - some letters from Lowell offering me 90% off to settle is what got me thinking these must have been near SB status, however I have one big 10k+ with a July date and another 10k+ at the end of August I am feeling a bit anxious again, even though I know there is nothing to worry about with the begging letters.  Reading the various forums I am not sure why the OC's didn't take action against me when I read time and again the surprise that other posters haven't already been taken to court for lesser amounts - I'm also surprised I've avoided any action this long as there are plenty in this forum and sub forum who are whisked off to the court by the beggers minions after only a year or so after defaulting.  There are no CCJ/decrees listed on my credit report and I have not received any such judgements against me.  I still just regularly receive the begging emails to the spambox, the blocked phone calls and the letters from the they. I'm also reading that there is no need in Scotland to send an LBC so what should I be looking out for to know that the time has come to engage with CCA requests etc? I'm afraid in a fit I threw a lot of the paperwork out but I have a box of stuff I'm going to go through which may have the original letters from the OC's. Thanks in advance for any advice.  
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However does the 40 day period include weekends or is it working days ? Also I now have a company car so no longer need the Megane so I will need to sell, could I do this ?

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CCA request 12+2 working days, SAR 40 calendar days from the date received.

 

So what happens now, I can't just sit around and do nothing or this will never get sorted and it's dragged on for over a year.

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nope await the sar first

 

then we'll decide

 

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ok well as you are at a lose end

 

somethings to do:

 

in post 43

 

in the other docs pdf

 

there are lots of docs with the customer sig blanked out

 

is this your sig on all of them?

 

hows the PPI and the charges reclaiming going?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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ok well as you are at a lose end

 

somethings to do:

 

in post 43

 

in the other docs pdf

 

there are lots of docs with the customer sig blanked out

 

is this your sig on all of them?

 

hows the PPI and the charges reclaiming going?

 

 

DX it looks like my signature but i cant ever remember signing them, as for the charges, I haven't started with that claim yet, I am going to get on with that this week.

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So what happens now, I can't just sit around and do nothing or this will never get sorted and it's dragged on for over a year.

 

 

 

 

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Inform Welcome that it has failed to comply with your lawful request for information made under DPA 1998 and that the breach will be the subject of a complaint to the ICO within 7 days if the data required is not received.

 

Did you mean CABOT ?

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Did you mean CABOT ?

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"If the creditor fails to comply with Subsection (1)

 

(a) He is not entitled , while the default continues, to enforce the agreement.

 

 

Therefore this account has become unenforceable at law.

 

You have failed to comply with a lawful request for a true, signed copy of the said agreement and other relevant documents mentioned in it, failed to send a full statement of the account and failed to provide any of the documentation requested.

 

Consequentially any legal action you pursue will be averred as both UNLAWFUL and VEXATIOUS.

 

Furthermore I shall counterclaim that any such action constitutes unlawful harassment.

 

Please note you may also consider this letter as a statutory notice under section 10 of the Data Protection Act to cease processing any data in relation to this account with immediate effect.

 

This means you must remove all information regarding this account from your own internal records and from my records with any credit reference agencies.

 

Should you refuse to comply, you must within 21 days provide me with a detailed breakdown of your reasoning behind continuing to process my data.

 

It is not sufficient to simply state that you have a ‘legal right’; You must outline your reasoning in this matter and state upon which legislation this reasoning depends.

 

Should you not respond within 14 days I expect that this means you agree to remove all such data.

 

Furthermore you should be aware that a creditor is not permitted to take ANY Action against an account whilst it remains in dispute.

 

The lack of a credit agreement is a very clear dispute and as such the following applies.

 

You may not demand any payment on the account, nor am I obliged to offer any payment to you.

You may not add further interest or any charges to the account.

You may not pass the account to a third party.

You may not register any information in respect of the account with any credit reference agency.

You may not issue a default notice related to the account"

 

Someone has just pointed out that because WELCOME failed to respond to the original CCA request they had no right to sell the account onto CABOT, would this be right, all welcome provided was the adjusted second agreement not the original.

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yes but rarely enforced.

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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So it's been 60 days since I sent the last letter to CABOT and no agreement from WELCOME yet.

 

As stated before I need to sell the car or return it as I have a company car now, does anyone know where I stand on this, I know legally I dont own the car but need to get this resolved.

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capitalisation is interest you cant inc that

neither conversion fee, nor HDPI

nor assessment

 

FIXED sum penalties only

 

Dx do you have atemplate letter for claiming back the charges applied, also would i send this to WELCOME or CABOT as they bought the debt ?

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always goes to the OC.

 

there is a credit card charges letter in the library tab top left

 

ADAPT that

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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ah yes sorry

the library was culled sometime recent

 

adapt to suit........

 

Account number

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

I recently became aware of media reports on the investigation into credit card charges by the Office of Fair Trading.

 

I now understand that the regime of fees which you had applied to my account in relation to late and over limit charges

are unlawful at Common Law & under both Statute and Consumer regulation as they do not represent a genuine pre-estimate of your actual costs, but more a fixed PENALTY.

 

I would draw your attention to the terms of the contract which you agreed to at the time that this account was opened.

 

It is an implied term of that contract that you would conduct yourselves lawfully and in a manner which complies with UK law

and in consideration of fair business practices and good faith.

 

It is my contention that you have failed to operate my account in a manner conducive to the above and have demonstrated a lack of fiduciary duty.

 

I calculate that you have taken £240.00 plus £878.70 which you have charged me in interest which totals £1,118.70.

 

Therefore this letter demands a refund of all PENALTY charges indicated including interest to the date you settle,

 

As the account concerned is closed, I request that payment is made directly to me, either by cheque or by BACS transfer.

 

I trust this clarifies my position.

 

Yours Faithfully

 

Enc; Schedule of charges

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi, just a update again.

 

It seems that CABOT are also unable to obtain the original credit agreement from WELCOME as

I have heard nothing from them since I sent the request in April,

 

What do I do now ?????

 

Also I have drafted a letter to welcome to claim the charges back on my account,

 

I was just wondering how long do I give them to respond to the request (not that I'm holding my breath)

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until/unless cabot send the CCA, its parked

 

as for the charges,

they have 8 weeks to ans the complaint

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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So I have finally heard from WELCOME regarding the charges applied to my account, it seems that I am unable to claim the real charges back as WELCOME entered into "THE SCHEME".

 

It also appears that I had 3 accounts now and not the 2 accounts they first claimed, This is a right mess, think it's time to give up fighting them as they have failed to comply with a SAR request in time, unable to produce the original CCA, and sold a account that was in dispute to CABOT.

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you need to convert to PDF

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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can we see you spreadsheets please

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you cant include

 

capitalisation

option to pay

fee assessment

HPDI fees

 

and you[ve left your name on the file

 

I've unapproved them too so they cant be seen

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ok, it's been a while since I updated this post but nothing has happened since.

 

The car that we had the finance on has finally decided to give up on us,

 

we have purchased a new car (not on finance),

 

the reason for this post is that we want to scrap the megane and was wondering if we can ?

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