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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hi people,

Hoping you could offer me some advice. Anything appreciated.

I discovered on Friday that my 50” Plasma LG 50PJ550 purchased from a Comet store 18 months ago was no longer working. It has the following problem:

When I tried to switch the LG 50PJ550 on with either the remote control ormanually on the LG 50PJ550 itself the red standby light goes outand the LG 50PJ550 tries to illuminate briefly then goesback to standby mode and then tries to switch on again then switches off. There is also some loud clicking when this ishappening therefore I believe the unit as faulty.

Just going on random AV forums would suggest there is an inherrent problem with this model and the exact same symptons and diagnosis. LG support believes the unitis faulty and their diagnosis based on our transcript leads them to believe itis the power supply board within the TV. Coincidentally, this was also Comet's diagnosis over the phone yesterday. LG also stated in transcript that from asupport perspective they have had this very same issue reported previously. Given that both LG and Comet's initialanalysis suggests a problem within the TV I would want this problemdealt with by the retailer.

LG also stated that as it was out of warranty by 6 months that it would be at a chargeable cost. I have directly approached Comet and said that under the Sale of GoodsAct 1979 makes it an implied term that goods be as described, of satisfactoryquality, free of flaws and made from durable materials to last a reasonablelength of time. As they are in breach of thisI am entitled by my statutory rights to have the LG 50PJ550 repaired at no cost,replaced or a full refund given.

They have responded by saying that they would inspect it at a cost of £69.00 as in agreement with Trading Standards. Citizens Advice state that my statutory rights are such that I should have it repaired at no cost.

I'm not sure where to go with this but am mooting the idea of small claims court. Any suggestions? I have sent them a recorded letter today with 14 days response required as to their actions.

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Hello and welcome to the site.

As you will have read,Comet have a shocking history of dealing with customer complaints.

The AV forums are a good authority for identifying whether there are common faults.

Funnily enough I had an older set to yours and also had exactly the same problem.

I ended up replacing the PCB myself since I bought the TV cheap second hand-it was worth fixing.

If you are up for a small claims action,then wait and see how they respond to your LBA.

Get together all supporting papertrail etc.

It will not be a complex or expensive route to go down.

Comet need to be shown that they cannot continue to get away with this treatment of consumers.

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Soga. Use it , love it.

 

If they dont adhere to statute law, then its time to take them to court.

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Although you shouldn’t have to do this but it might save you a lot of time, money and the hassle of dealing with Comet by repairing it yourself if you’re confident with a soldering iron. I’m not 100% sure but I think the issue with the PJ550 series TV’s was down to either one or two failed resistors on the power supply board. There is a thread on the av forums site which goes into detail about this issue and a number of people have repaired it themselves for as little as a couple of quid. You could even try an independent TV repairer if you don’t feel confident.

 

I had a nasty experience myself with Comet a couple of years ago before they got into difficulty and my TV was in warrantee. I would brace yourself for a fight.

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Theres no real need to do it yourself, when statute law says that Comet must refund or replace it, no questions asked.

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Then take legal action and get compensation too. Plus press coverage. Could always notify watchdog too. I'm pretty sure theyd be interested when they investigate and find that hundreds, if not thousands of people are being missold policies and comet are ignoring the law.

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The Sale of Goods Act 1974(as amended) states that for the first six months after purchase, if anything goes wrong then that fault is assumed to have been there at purchase and it is up to the seller to prove otherwise.

After six months, it is then up to the buyer to prove there was an inherent fault with it. You can only do this by paying for an engineers report. If that report show there is an inherent fault, then the seller must repair or replace at his discretion and refund the engineers report.

 

You should get an independent to examin it and not the seller, especially if that is Comet.

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Hi Hug ,

 

I agree with Conniff here an independent report will show the issue is an inherent fault as in the Components failing in the Power Supply which johny mentions in his post as being the cause of the fault with the Tv which he is 100% correct .

 

Best leaving this repair to the experts and hopefully COMET will stump up one way or another after the Tv has been examined independently .

 

 

Regarding the post from rene ,

 

when statute law says that Comet must refund or replace it, no questions asked

 

 

That may well be the theory but the practice would show this does not happen going by the number of unresolved posts in the COMET Threads here on CAG that would confirm this .

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Thanks for all the replies people

 

A question then on soga. Comet responded today after I quoted soga by stating they would examine the TV for any defects at a cost of £69.00 as in agreement with Trading Standards. This charge seems to be the norm with Comet. Is this reasonable or should I stick with my soga stance which is basically 'You're in the wrong by law, the unit hasn't lasted a reasoble length of time and I'm not paying a penny for something that cost a fortune and lasted 6 months past it's warranty period'

 

Or should I pay the £69.00, leave it in their hands? Citizens Advice suggested I pay the £69.00 and claim back but it kind of feels like I'm giving into their demands in a way.

 

Just how are my kids going to get their daily dose of In The Night Garden???

 

 

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Up yo you.

If you are prepared to pay the fee and wait.

Make sure that you put it in writing that you will be claiming the fee back along with associated costs later.

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How did you pay for it ?

There is no time limit on a s75 claim.

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Ah ok.

There was a case a while ago similar to yours but I think it was a laptop.

Comet would not budge.The OP ended up getting a written repair estimate which I think cost about £20 as it was an expert witness one.

In that case also Comet had wanted him to pay £55 I think.

In the end they caved in and sorted it and also paid the £20 he had paid for the report.

It was a hairsbreadth away from an N1.

Will see if I can find it.

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Thanks Martin very helpful,

I have rung around local TV repair shops and I have been quoted £25.00 for an independant Engineers report to identify the fault. Now Comet want £69.00 for their own engineers report. Would it then make sense to go with my option and then present it to Comet or would they still insist on their own analysis.

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Do it your way.

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I think they will insist on following "Their own Policy"

Obtaining your own report would obviously be more favourable to you in the event that you filed a small clams action.(Which would be a route if they were presented with your own report and failed to resolve matters)

It is reasonable to assume that a report done by them would have some vested interest if you see what I mean ?

 

Before filing a claim,you would be expected to have given them the op to resolve your complaint.

It would seem to be the right course to get an indi report for £25 and put it to them.

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Like others have said it would be better to have the TV inspected by an independent rather than Comet or whoever they want to look at it. £69 is quite steep for a written report and there is a good chance it will state the fault is down to “wear and tear” and not a manufacturing defect. Then you’re down another £69 and still no further forward.

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Hi There,

 

Reading your story and found it very interesting and am wondering where you have got to and whether your TV is now fixed.

 

My TV,exact same model seems to have the same issues,it tries to switch on,clicks,the red LED goes on and then it switches off. V frustrating.

 

I'm thinking the best and quickest solution will be to contact a local TV engineer.

 

What do you think and where have you got too??

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