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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
    • New version after LFI's superb analysis of the contract. Sorry, but you need to redo the numbering of the paras and of the exhibits in the right order after all the damage I've caused! Defendant's WS - version 4.pdf
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1994 i began my dispute with Nat West around the same time PAT GRIFFITHS had started the BANK ATION GROUP ,i never new the outcome of Pats action against the bank,me i am still waiting for the Nat West to respond,it seems they are sitting on my DEED OF COVENANT, and they think it is safe with them,i will explain firstly the nat west co ersed me into joining their bank in 1993 and in doing so they instructed me to write out all my cheques to my suppliers useing the other banks chque book,when i had done so i was then given an immediate account with a twenty five thou overdraft facility this was provisionally for three months but i also had to sign a deed of covenant aggreeing to the terms and conditions,we dully signed the wife and i and the next thing i know is that the bank then trminated my account which was still upto the 25k limit the reason for the termination of the account was because i asked the bank to stop a cheque that was made out in error they in turn sent me a fax with a skeleton on it but to them they claim it was a joke somehow the local newspaper got hold of the story and the bank manager informed the papers that they had issued an apoligy..truth be known they terminated my account before the three month deadline...so i began an action against them..the bank manager was moved to another branch the assistant manager who sent the joke was moved to another branch..during this time of one week before my account was due to end(aggreement)i had paid in 12500 and this brought the account down also when my solicitor started the action i then find my barristers report that i should have been the first to read was being read by the bank so i was not to pleased ,it was a case of the solicitor was in cahoots with the bank..so intemper i invoiced the bank for my troubles and their deceipt etc i charged them 25 pounds per letter i read and 25 pounds per letter i sent ,i also sent them the invoices and demanded payment also sent them a invoice for the damage caused..ie they also phoned two of my suppliers and warned them that i was a bad risk so i ended up with a action against me for the full amount from the transport co and one of my suppliers...the transport company phoned me to tell me of the banks phone call..having paid the transport i then reilised they had really put me out of business ,so i decided to go for bankruptcy..this done i then went to the backruptcy meeting with the creditors every one of the creditors aggreed with me that they would cancel their debts and we could start again on a cash with order basis...with this done i was cock a hoop but not reilising that the banks were still holding my deed of covenant and to this day they still have it...i wrote to the nat west demanding my payments and also my deeds,they in return issued a writ for the monies owed,by now a few thou in intrest had been added

they have admitted to libel i have told them that their breech of contract renders their claim null and void and demand my deeds back...i also instructed them to please take this issue to court immediately or within ten days ,i also demanded a response that within ten days if i get no resposne then the contract is anulled ....i got a phone call about one month ago for the first time in 12/13 years they have ever responded and this was from a solicitor who called me and asked about the monies owed to the nat west...i told the solicitors i do not owe a penny and i would see them in court before they got anything,my solicitor was also struck of the register for innapropiate behaviour and fraudulent activities that was with five months of me making my complaint against him with the law society seems he was a legal crook....where do i stand with regards to the nat west i dont know but i will fight tooth and nail to sort this out ,but i also wonder will my case stand the test of time can i still fight this although it is beyond the statute for time or am i wrong ...i still cannot get a bank account in this area as they are all in cahoots with each other here (banks i mean)

their is more to this than i have written but it would take pages to write and i know everyone wants the facts short and sweet but i am also begining an action against MORGAN STANLEY over PPI insurance where i claimed 33 months from norwich union to pay due to illness this was ok but the banks still charged me intrest and PPI insurance every month in effect all the norwich union paid was eaten up with more intrest so in effect not a penny was paid as i am left with a higher bill that when it started so PPI is a load of rubbish and its a con so i am now trying to claim all payment plus intrest of ppi for three years i have sent the first letter to MORGAN STANLEY for all data statement and i have also sent to MOORCROFT debt collectors the letter asking what they have on me and i dispute the bill,their reply at 9:00 in the evening is we dont care we want payment so a letter was sent to them this week as well so i will keep you all posted

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I'm not sure whether this isn't time barred under statute of limitation but can you please clarify what a Deed of Covenant is? I think that may help others to give suitable advice to you.

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my apoligies it was deed of assignment but thanks for your reply i dont think anyone can help on this its been hanging over me like a noose for so long and the stress is almost unbearable but thanks anyway

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