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    • The only way to verify whether there is any financial reward for the management is seeing the agreement. That would be required during disclosure IF court proceedings went ahead... Unless you could bring pressure to bear and get a copy?
    • god they've got at you haven't they. told you all the usual utter BS. a CCJ vanishes from your credit file on it's 6th B'Day regardless to being paid off or not or paying or not. same with any debt with a registered defaulted date - it vanishes from your file on the DN's 6th B'day regardless. creditfix are Knightsbridge, (they renamed) there are 100's of threads here on Knightsbridge, if i remember rightly 2 of the directors of a certain very big IVA provider were struck off for embezzling £1m's out of debtors. pers i'd stop paying now.  end of . just ignore them all. 99% of your debts are to utterly powerless DCA's and probably were never owed in the first place only goes to firm up my belief from post one..you got had blind. its very easy to deal with the debts even those with CCJ's. can you copy and paste what you credit file says regarding the IVA please?   
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    • Sorry I meant credit fix - I really wish I'd known this before - kicking myself right now  If they come back to me asking for more money I'll cancel it and start trying to deal with the debt myself let's see what they say  Feeling tempted to cancel it now but scared that some of the debts will do more CCJ's on me and I'll have to wait 6 years again.  2 of the CCJ come of this year and then I'll only have the iva in credit file - effectively if I'd have not took out the iva in 2021 I'd have clear score by now - but then again would I because I would have been hounded the last 3 years, as bad as it is it's saves me lots of headaches whilst my debt was still within the 6 year mark.  I think most of them are near there but in all honesty no point chasing them if I do cancel iva I'd jjst wait for the ones who contact me and then start the relevant letter process on them.  Of over 6 years easy if not still possible to write off. My true victory would be having the iva wiped off my credit file as mis sold or something that way I Don't have to wait till 2027 Other option is to fight back and ask for them to offer the creditors to accept payments so far and use the following method    Will your IVA firm agree to complete your IVA on the basic of funds paid to date? The Guidance lists a lot of factors to be considered in deciding whether a settlement on the basis of funds paid to date should be proposed. You should read the list. But that may not give you any feel for whether they apply to you or not. The following are my thoughts on when an IVA should be treated as settled, not failed. They assume that you have £75 or less to pay a month: if you would currently qualify for a Debt Relief Order, then your IVA should be settled now  There is no point in making your IVA fail and you have to apply for a DRO – it will not generate another penny for your creditors. If you are renting and owe less than £50,000, check the DRO criteria now and talk to National Debtline on 0808 808 4000 about whether you qualify. You may have been told at the start of your IVA that you aren’t eligible – still check now as the DRO criteria have changed, your situation has got worse, and some people were given incorrect information about DROs at the start. if you have no assets that would be realised in bankruptcy (eg a house with equity, car worth over £2000), then your IVA should be settled now Same as (1), there is no point in making you apply for bankruptcy after your IVA fails. if your only asset is a car that is worth less than £8000, then your IVA should be settled now A car that is worth say £5000 would normally be sold in bankruptcy and you would be given a small amount to buy a cheaper car. But your creditors would not get any benefit from this as the Insolvency Service takes the first £8000 raised to cover its own costs. if you have significant assets, the closer you are to the end of the IVA, the less reasonable it is to fail it If you have been paying your IVA for 4 years, you have done your best over a long period. It isn’t your fault you can no longer continue. The fact you may have had equity to release isn’t relevant as that simply isn’t going to be possible. if your situation will clearly improve soon, then it’s unlikely your IVA will be settled I mean real improvements, not hoping that prices fall. If I can get them to accept payment to date or threaten with cancellation hopefully they may accept it -  Other option is to try and borrow money and pay make a full and final offer  Or I can just ignore and hope for the best which I'm very tempted to do especially if they respond to my review with bullying tactics despite me being skint as a fart with no mortgage as renting  It's so stressful but I've just checked the iva agreement from 2021 and it's Cabot 2 accounts Lowell about 5 accounts and then lots of repeats of the same debt with for example zopa and Cabot same amount listed twice -  also loyyds banks but I'm sure that's older than 6 years and not on credit file anyway  If I can somehow remove the iva from my credit file I'd be happy 
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IS this right? Can a CRA continuously report, month after month, a red 6 ? For example -can they put on 15 red 6's before an 8?

 

Hi, i'm having the same problem with this too. This has been happening to me for the last 6 1/2 years from welcome finance.

 

I can't get any answers from anyone and have even got Experian to speak with Welcome Finance who are reporting this. Still no luck every month shows a big fat 6!!! :-x

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Hi, i'm having the same problem with this too. This has been happening to me for the last 6 1/2 years from welcome finance.

 

I can't get any answers from anyone and have even got Experian to speak with Welcome Finance who are reporting this. Still no luck every month shows a big fat 6!!! :-x

 

Is the account still open?

when did you make the last payment?

have you acknowledged any debt to them?

 

whats the story - mine has been resolved.

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I took out a HP agreement in july 2005 I wasn't happy with the car (all from Welcome Fianance) and refused to pay them and told them to collect the car. The car literally fell apart after 2 months!

 

They collected the car and I moved heard nothing from them. Its still showing on my credit report that i Owe Them 6k plus they clearly never took any money off for taking the car back.

 

I have sent them a CCA with no reply that was over a year ago. Last time I paid any money to them was November 2005 as it's on my bank statement.

 

So i'm basically stuffed, I want to get a mortgage but they are still showing 6 tags on my credit report. for the past 6 YEARS!!!! This is with Experian, nothing on callcredit and i'm waiting for Equifax to send me thiers.

 

I have got some info togther to send the the ICO hopefully they can help?? I'm getting desperate now feel like this is gonna go on forever!!!

 

How did you get your resolved???

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I know how you feel.

 

Id do 4 things.

 

1. Check your credit report for a CCJ

2. Send Welcome and SB letter

3. Send Welcome an SAR to find out whats been going on

4. Send them a nice letter; something like this perhaps.

 

Dear sir/madam

 

Account ref xxxxxxxxxx

date xxxxxx

 

Dear sir, madam,

 

I have recently checked my CRF and have been shocked to discover WF are still updating a very old account with late payment markers.

I have attached a copy of my CRF for your reference clearly showing what has been reported for the last 'x' years, bearing in mind the last payment

was made in November of 2005. I deem this as being unfair as this does not accurately reflect the true status of this account.

 

furthermore your continous reporting of inaccurate data against me breaches the principles as set out in the data protection act 1988 in addition

to breaching the ICO's guidance on dealing with deliquent accounts, as set out in the 'data protection technical guidance notes on filing of defaults with credit reference agencies'. The account should have been defaulted within 6 months, latest by end May 2006. If WF had followed these guidelines, then this record would have been completely removed from my CRF in May of 2012.

 

You must be aware that continuously reporting such inaccurate data on my CRF is having a severe negative impact on my credit status and as such I can only but conclude that WF actions are designed to be vexatious in the least.

 

I therefore require you to urgently remove this entry from my credit file and confirm the same in writing.

 

 

I baslcially threw as much as I possibly could at them. CPUTR2008, ICO guidance and DPA 1988. theres no way really they could have go out of it.

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Hi,

 

Thought I would let you know the latest. ....

 

I recieved my Equifax report to day and there is no sign of welcome finance on there which is good news also not on Call credit so it appears the only one still reporting on is Experian???

 

Any ideas why this could be? TBH I havn't checked my experian for a few months now so will do that shortly possibly could have dropped off though think unlikely!! Also no CCJ at all on any of them from anyone!

 

Thanks in advance

 

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When was the last time you made payment towards the debt or acknowledged it in any form in writing?

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WF exists only to collect book debts,and does no more

new business,so I guess 1 CRA is enough.

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Were Wf notified formally that the debt was SB?

 

Reading back this is confusing was the WF account ever

defaulted???

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Were Wf notified formally that the debt was SB?

 

Reading back this is confusing was the WF account ever

defaulted???

 

 

Hi,

 

The lasy payment made on the account was november 2005, and no it was never defaulted, it appears on my credit report with experian as 6, 6, 6 literally for the last 6 years +.

 

Yes very confusing have no idea why welcome never defaulted the account?? Any ideas would be muchly appreciated!!

 

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Hi,

 

The lasy payment made on the account was november 2005, and no it was never defaulted, it appears on my credit report with experian as 6, 6, 6 literally for the last 6 years +.

 

Yes very confusing have no idea why welcome never defaulted the account?? Any ideas would be muchly appreciated!!

 

:smile:

 

There seems to be a lot of fairly old WF accounts coming to light

at present more of the than usual have not been defaulted by WF

or DCAs, it may be that there is some reason for this relating to the

the fact that Welcome only exists to collect the outstanding debts,

so my guess is that accounts were not defaulted so they remain on

credit, WFs paperwork and record keeping has always been dreadful

and I think they have used the CRAs as afiling system.

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For reference the ICO Data Protection Technical Guidance on Filing defaults with credit reference agencies is here: http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/default_tgn_version_v3%20%20doc.pdf

In that document it is stated "A record showing a series of payments as six months in arrears when this does not reflect the real payment history should not be used as an equivalent of a default."

I have successfully used the Guidance to get one of my creditors to record a default with the CRAs properly, and am in the process of going through the complaint process with two others.

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For reference the ICO Data Protection Technical Guidance on Filing defaults with credit reference agencies is here: http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/default_tgn_version_v3%20%20doc.pdf

 

In that document it is stated "A record showing a series of payments as six months in arrears when this does not reflect the real payment history should not be used as an equivalent of a default."

 

I have successfully used the Guidance to get one of my creditors to record a default with the CRAs properly, and am in the process of going through the complaint process with two others.

 

 

Hi,

 

I've just been reading that document. I have gathered all the info and I am sending the letters off today. Hopefully with some resolution I will let eveyone know how I get on shortly.

 

Many Thanks

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Hi,

 

Thought I would give you an update...

 

It has been 2 weeks and Welcome Finance have not replied, nothing at all. I sent the letter Special Next Day delivery and have tracked it so I know they definately recieved it.

 

So I have gathered all the information together and sent a complaint to the ICO. Hopefully they can get Welcome to get this removed from my file and I can have a normal life again.

 

Do you think they can make this happen? Fingers & toes crossed!!!!

 

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Much will depend on the adjudicator,and how your complaint was set ut.

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It has been 2 weeks and Welcome Finance have not replied, nothing at all. I sent the letter Special Next Day delivery and have tracked it so I know they definately recieved it.

 

Did you head the letter FORMAL COMPLAINT? Did you send it to the Compliance Department in Nottingham?

 

Two weeks would be about the timeframe I would expect of them to respond to a Formal Complaint acknowledging receipt and enclosing a copy of their complaints procedure. This would have an anticipation of providing you with a final response up to 8 weeks from receipt. You really do need to give them a little more time.

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They have up to 8 weeks to reply to a formal complaint. There are a few companies that actively wait a good few weeks before sending out replies, hoping that you will agree to drag it out longer, and not realise that they only have 8 weeks to reply, regardless of what is happening.

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Oh ok I didn't realise that, I will give them a while longer. No didn't write Formal Complaint anywhere. Hopefully when and if they reply I can go from there and actually see what the score is.

 

See as I havn't spoken to them for nearly 7 years i'm not too hopeful of them replying anyway tbh. But I live in hope!!!

 

Thanks for the advice :-)

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Did you mention the ICO Technical Guidance on Default Entries,

which states that defaults must be placed timely usually within 6

months of the cause of action, and that late paynent markers should

NOT be used instead of a default.

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