Assaulted by Bailliff

[wonkeydonkey]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO do not contact them.

[JustinWales]

Thats a good start....just to reiterate....you do really need to get those injuries looked at by A & E or your GP and as we now have a long weekend I think A & E would be the better option they need to be seen with every scratch in place before they fade? Is there any chance you can put an ear to the ground to see what the gossip is about the assault, you might find that mrs X saw it and told mrs y who then told....................................

 

WD

 

ok i will go to A and E first thing in the morning, I will also find out if anybody saw anything.

While typing this a chap called Michael called me from logbook loans in regard to my email about releasing my car, He said it will be staying in storage while pending further investigation.

[ploddertom]

Have you had a read of some of the posts here http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?203-Log-Book-Loans-Bills-of-Sale . How much had you paid off? Was your Bill of Sale constructed and sealed correctly?

 

PT

[JustinWales]

Right the police have just been to take a statement. the offficer even said to me he dont think it will go anywhere.

Why are these people allowed to do this? its an absolute disgrace. no wonder this countrys in the state its in.

[Bazooka Boo]

Get onto your local MP, if the Police are not willing to stand by their oath and prosecute then that is cause for complaint to the IPCC, I am probably as livid as you over this, it beggars belief it really does, they can fine cyclists for riding on the pavement and through pedestrian areas, cyclists who are causing no harm or loss to anyone, yet they cannot arrest and charge a man for physically harming another? Give me a break, that is classic evidence that the Police are revenue collectors, if they cannot make a profit out of this then they don't want to know, typical ruddy corporation.

 

http://www.writetothem.com/

 

http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/en/Pages/your_complaint_.aspx

[Bazooka Boo]

D G Collections are "Certificated Bailiffs" NOT county court bailiffs.

 

Certificated bailiffs are granted a certificate by a County Court Judge which allows them to Levy Distress. The certificate lasts for just two years and authorises the bailiff to levy distress anywhere in England and Wales. To obtain a certificate, the applicant must satisfy the Judge that he is a “fit and proper person” to hold a certificate, and that he has a sufficient knowledge of the law of distress, and also that he is not in the business of buying debts. They must also provide two references, undergo a criminal records check, a County Court Judgment check and finally, provide a security bond of £10,000. This final requirement normally being an insurance bond.

 

They are not officers of the court and are not employed by the court. However, they are seen as representatives of the court because they act under the authority of a Certificate issued by the court. The court therefore exercises, under the certification process, a certain amount of control over the standards of competence and conduct of these bailiffs. Other than that, there is no formal regulatory structure of Certificated Bailiffs, although those that are members of the Certificated Bailiffs Association are subject to the complaints procedure of that body.

Only Certificated Bailiffs can carry out distress for rent, council tax, non-domestic rates and parking fines, child support agency arrears etc.

 

And according to their website, they only have two certificated bailiffs, was this clown one of them?? Is he still licensed??

[wonkeydonkey]

Just out of interest ...was their any evidence to injuries on your repo man? judging by the injuries you sustained I would have expected him to be able to show some

damage to his person if you did indeed "resist" as violently as he alleges.

 

There are many ways to skin a rabbit and when the coat comes off,

the flesh and bones make a tasty meal for those who took time to prepare it !

 

WD

[ploddertom]

D G Collections are "Certificated Bailiffs" NOT county court bailiffs.

 

 

 

And according to their website, they only have two certificated bailiffs, was this clown one of them?? Is he still licensed??

 

And according to the bailiff Register there is only 1?? Although I realise the register is not always 100% accurate I would have thought that this "well respected" company would have had both listed.

 

PT

[Bazooka Boo]

The plot thickens!!!

[JustinWales]

Get onto your local MP, if the Police are not willing to stand by their oath and prosecute then that is cause for complaint to the IPCC, I am probably as livid as you over this, it beggars belief it really does, they can fine cyclists for riding on the pavement and through pedestrian areas, cyclists who are causing no harm or loss to anyone, yet they cannot arrest and charge a man for physically harming another? Give me a break, that is classic evidence that the Police are revenue collectors, if they cannot make a profit out of this then they don't want to know, typical ruddy corporation.

 

http://www.writetothem.com/

 

http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/en/Pages/your_complaint_.aspx

 

I certainly will be getting on to my MP, im also thinking of phoning my local paper to see if they are interested in a story (would this be ok?)

 

What got me was when the bailliff was at my address he did not show me any I.D. No paperwork, He had no court order and when we were arguing i snatched the paperwork out of his hand, The police officer who took the statement this morning said to me "That is also ASSAULT"

So i showed him my injury and said " and that is not assault". He said well i wasnt there so i cant judge what happened.

[Bazooka Boo]

I certainly will be getting on to my MP, im also thinking of phoning my local paper to see if they are interested in a story (would this be ok?) Yes definitely!

 

What got me was when the bailiff was at my address he did not show me any I.D. No paperwork, He had no court order So how were you to know who he was? Just because he said so? Don't make me laugh..

when we were arguing I snatched the paperwork out of his hand, The police officer who took the statement this morning said to me "That is also ASSAULT" What utter nonsense, hope you got his collar number and name?

So I showed him my injury and said " and that is not assault". He said well I wasn't there so I cant judge what happened.

What circus Police station did you go to?? Sounds more like Trumpton ?

 

Definitely some media coverage I think, highlight the bully boy bailiffs and the idiocy of your local Police....unruddybelievable..

[JustinWales]

Looking at the Baillif Register now that is him the top 1.

His name is on the receipt i got

[Bazooka Boo]

Haven't got his name so can't see, DON'T name him!!!

[wonkeydonkey]

The media will play a part in this scenario at some point but I strongly suggest you wait and see what action if any the police decide to take, as you coud find yourself doing a lot of damage to your case against the "bailiff" and payday loans. !!!

 

WD

[JustinWales]

The media will play a part in this scenario at some point but I strongly suggest you wait and see what action if any the police decide to take, as you coud find yourself doing a lot of damage to your case against the "bailiff" and payday loans. !!!

 

WD

 

Advice taken. though i have emailed a few, Just waiting on replys.

[Bazooka Boo]

What are the Police doing?

[JustinWales]

What are the Police doing?

 

Dragging their hells, No doubt. im still waiting to hear something, Nothing since taking a statement.

 

I did try to reply to your PM. but its saying your not accepting pm's.

[Bazooka Boo]

Not to worry about PM'ing me I think I only sent you a few links to other info??

 

If you don't hear anything off the wooden tops by the end of the week I would give them a ring and ask them what, if anything, they are doing..

[seanamarts]

Im hoping that this will be of some help

http://www.logbookloans.co.uk/CodeOfPractice.pdf

It makes good reading

[benjamyn999]

I am sorry to say I think you have had bad service (?) from the police and less than optimal advice about what to do about this. You should write to the Head of Professional Standards at police headquarters stating that you have a "considered grievance" and wish to make a complaint under the Police Reform Act and in accordance with the Statutory Guidance issued by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC). Allege neglect of duty in that no action was considered nor taken in respect of an assault occasioning actual bodily harm. State that although the cause of the dispute between the assailant and you may have been a civil matter (or it may not) this has no bearing on the assault matter. Be as precise as you can about which police attended where and when, what happened at the station later and so on. Keep the letter to no more than two sides of A4. Send a copy of this letter to the Chief Executive of the Police Authority (which may be at the same address or may not). Don't waste the paper and postage writing to the IPCC at this stage. It can do nothing until the police investigation into your complaint is complete. You will be offered local resolution to sort this, which will bring you nothing in a case of this type. Refuse and insist on a proportionate investigation. Remember the police has six months to bring the case to court but that time drags slowly in police bureaucracy.

[wonkeydonkey]

I am sorry to say I think you have had bad service (?) from the police and less than optimal advice about what to do about this. You should write to the Head of Professional Standards at police headquarters stating that you have a "considered grievance" and wish to make a complaint under the Police Reform Act and in accordance with the Statutory Guidance issued by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC). Allege neglect of duty in that no action was considered nor taken in respect of an assault occasioning actual bodily harm. State that although the cause of the dispute between the assailant and you may have been a civil matter (or it may not) this has no bearing on the assault matter. Be as precise as you can about which police attended where and when, what happened at the station later and so on. Keep the letter to no more than two sides of A4. Send a copy of this letter to the Chief Executive of the Police Authority (which may be at the same address or may not). Don't waste the paper and postage writing to the IPCC at this stage. It can do nothing until the police investigation into your complaint is complete. You will be offered local resolution to sort this, which will bring you nothing in a case of this type. Refuse and insist on a proportionate investigation. Remember the police has six months to bring the case to court but that time drags slowly in police bureaucracy.

 

This is an excellent post................... very clear and precise, IMO the OP would do well to follow the advice given. The cagger appears to be well versed on the the subject?

[spamheed]

until the matter of assault is resolved, i would tread carefully about bringing a complaint through the court, if the Op loses, it could be an expensive mistake.

Far better to have him filleted by the police if possible, then go after his licence

[Bob of Bonsall]

Came into this thread on the 4th page, so not going to trawl through to check, but has anyone suggested enlisting the help of BBC Radio 4's "You and Yours" or "Moneybox" programmes?

They both take a keen interest in abuses of the law by the loan industry, particularly when they are preying on the vunerable, and would welcome the details of such an episode.

 

Unfortunately because i have less than 10 posts I can not submit the links I intended, so go to the BBC Radio 4 homepage and look up the pages for the relevent programmes.

 

If someone who has got more than 10 posts can do this, they could put the links in as a reply to this trunkated offering.

 

hope this helps someone.

 

Bob

[wonkeydonkey]

IMO the cagger would be better placed not to involve the media in any form at this stage, as they could damage any action they can bring against any of the parties involved and that includes the police.

 

WD

[benjamyn999]

Clearly media coverage could (in extreme cases) damage your court claim against the bailiffs but it will not do any harm regarding the police matters. You are not seeking compensation from them (nor will you get any if you try). The bailiff would have to proce that the coverage was so extensive that no tribunal, properly directed, could come to a fair conclusion. Given that the matter would be one item in say, You and Yours, I don't think this cuts it.