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06/09/2006 Data Protection Act Letter Sent

 

11/09/2006 Called NatWest who say they haven't received any letter but passed me to the Lending Centre in Bristol who advise they will send out all statements from the last 6 years. They stated that due to the large numbers of people doing this, please allow 2-3 weeks for delivery!

 

I take it that the 40 days time frame commences from the 11/09/2006 then? :-|

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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06/09/2006 Data Protection Act Letter Sent

 

11/09/2006 Called NatWest who say they haven't received any letter but passed me to the Lending Centre in Bristol who advise they will send out all statements from the last 6 years. They stated that due to the large numbers of people doing this, please allow 2-3 weeks for delivery!

 

I take it that the 40 days time frame commences from the 11/09/2006 then? :-|[

 

As far as i know the 40 days start from when you send the DPA

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No need to answer that last one folks, i just found it in the FAQ thread! Starts from when the fully paid request is received by the relevant person/dept dealing with it.

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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14/09/06 Recieved first batch of statements from Oct 2002 onwards,can't believe they were so quick!! :eek: £1654 in charges so far ;)

 

Awaiting Second batch Sep 00 - Oct 02 :sad:

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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Well, still waiting for the rest of the statements to arrive. Envelope from natwest arrived in the post today, and guess what!! They've sent me last years statements which i've already received instead of pre Oct 2004!!:-x

 

Anyone else getting service like this?

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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Hi Meister

 

I got my 6 years worth of statements in one go but there were multiple copies of certain periods, and they were in no particular order.

 

Natwest is still as efficient and effective as ever!!

NatWest Claim 1 - Won

Natwest Claim 2 - Won

Natewest Credit Card - Won

HSBC Claim 1 - Stayed

 

For the OH

Capquest - Admitted Statue Barred

BuchananClark & Wells - Awaiting Credit Agreement

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Finally got the rest of my statements after going in to the branch last week to chase them up. TOTAL CLAIM AMOUNT £2794!!

 

Have already decided what i'm going to do with the cash - back off to Australia for a month holiday i think!!

 

Prelim letter prepared and sent today 07/10/06

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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Anyone know if MCOL accept solo card for payment for when i get to that stage or am i best just going down to the local court?

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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Thanks Cheddar

 

Is their any actual benefit if filing a claim through MCOL, is it any cheaper? As i only live 2 minutes walk from my local court anyway?

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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Well, just to let you know how things are going...

 

Prelim Sent 07/10/06

 

LBA Sent 23/10/06

 

No response received to either letter - checked with my local branch on 03/10/06 - they say that no notes have been recorded on my account to suggest any letters have been received - is this usual??

 

Claim filed with MCOL 05/11/06.

 

Do i need to do anything else now apart from wait for the 14 days to expire, and what point does this begin.. is it from filing the claim of the date that NatWest acknowledge the claim?

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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Send 2 copies of your schedule of charges, clearly marked with your claim no. + a brief covering letter asking for them to be filed with your claim to:

 

The Court Manager,

Money Claim Online

Northampton County Court

21-27 St. Katharine's Street

Northampton

NN1 2LH

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

(Your Name) –v- (Bank)

Claim No: ********

Date Issued: xx/xx/xx

 

Please find enclosed a schedule of penalty charges taken from me by the defendant, along with interest claimed at the annual rate of 8% pursuant to section 69 of the County Court Act. The interest in addition to the amount in charges equates to the total amount of my claim, namely £(AMOUNT).

 

I respectfully request that the enclosed schedule should be attached to the particulars of my claim.

 

Yours Faithfully

 

When you receive the Notice of Acknowledgement send a copy to the bank’s solicitors.

 

 

14 days from the deemed date of service, which is usually 5 days after issue at MCOL

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Thanks for that Michael, from reading the FAQ'S, I thought that that was only required when claiming via local court rather MCOL, thanks for letting me know, i'll get that done.

 

Thanks again.

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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Just another quick note, when you mention the 'notice of acknowledgement' - will that be from Natwest's Solicitors then?

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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Thanks for advice again michael.

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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Just a quick thanks for this thread, and particularly the info from Michael concerning additional schedule of charges to Northampton. Excellent information all absorbed and logged. Thanks

My advice has hardly any legal foundation whatsoever, however you never know it it might just work!

:cool:

 

NatWest Prelim 07.10.206

LBA 21.10.2006

MCOL 30.10.2006

Acknowledgment of Service 06.11.2006

Offer of approx 50% £2200.00 22.11.2006

Full settlement £4500 received 03.01.2007

Smile settled in full

Barclaycard settled in full

RBS Worldwide settled in full

Lloyds TSB settled in full £750.00

Lloyds TSB settled in Full £275.00 11.04.2007

Lloyds TSB business account £1376.00 AQ filed

Lloyds TSB Business account settled in full 21.05.07

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Hi guys, just to keep you updated...

 

I filed MCOL claim which was deemed to be served on 11th Nov, they acknowledged yesterday (14th), and today i missed the postie who had something which was special delivery, anyone know what this may be???

 

Do cobbetts usually send the defence this soon by this method... or do you reckon it could be confirmation of acknowledgement from the court?

 

Just eager to know as i cant get down to the sorting office till tomorrow and i know i've read in few other posts that natwest have started settling in full at an earlier stage????? Hoping it could be the cheque!!:-|

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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Does anyone know?? The suspense is killing me!

 

Do Cobbetts usually send info by 'special delivery'?

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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  • 3 weeks later...

Well, this morning have recd 1st piece of correspondence from natwest since starting the claim 2 months ago!!

 

50% offer of claim from cobbetts.

 

Will send a reply accepting partial offer with the full intention of reclaiming the remainder. Does anyone know if natwest ever pay up the partial offer before settling in full?

NatWest

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/11/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 14/11/06

- Defence Received: 08/12/06

- Cobbetts AQ Received: 27/12/06

LLOYDS TSB

- LBA Sent: 23/10/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 06/10/06

- Claim Acknowledged: 15/11/06

- Defence Recd/AQ Sent: 06/12/06

- SCM AQ Recd: 15/12/06

MORGAN STANLEY

- Partial Offer Received with statements: 03/11/06

- Prelim Sent: 07/11/06

- Settled in Full: 17/11/06 :)

NATIONWIDE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Settled in Full: 21/12/06:)

- Account Closure Notification: 23/12/06

INTELLIGENT FINANCE

- LBA Sent: 23/11/06

- Partial offer Recd: 25/11/06

- Rejection Sent: 25/11/06

- MCOL Claim Filed: 30/11/06

- Judgment Filed: 04/01/06

BLACK HORSE

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

NATWEST VISA

- S.A.R Sent: 16/11/06

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I sent a letter accepting partial payment last week and haven't heard anything back yet

Son v Halifax settled in full £292

Another son v Halifax settled in full £30

Bigmama59 v NatWest settled in full £4739.69:)

Son v Halifax 2nd claim settled in full £130

Bigmama v Halifax settled in full £1125

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Usually if the offer is not accepted under the terms they've offered then the offer is withdrawn.

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