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    • That is a big improvement Dave and I do agree that it s best to leave it till the last moment to prevent VCS from countering your WS. [usually using doubtful logic that can't be easily argued against in a Court atmosphere] However my first post [no. 32] about the contract is the one that really exposes Jake's flummery and calls into  question jost how close he comes to committing perjury. And that is what hopefully VCS will not want questioned by a Judge. 
    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
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Or you could try http://www.pipelinecard.org/ I have signed up it looks like another case of the consumer bitiing back!!!!!

 

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Not yet. they are still gathering names etc for the cards but it has been covered on national press so i think it is genuine. As it doesnt cost to sign up i thought what the hell!!

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The last mailing I had said that they were anticipating launch in May/June. The TV programme I saw showed a scheme in Holland that works very well. So it certainly has a good basis for working, and the people involved seem to be doing their homework.

 

Today the banks....tomorrow the petrol companies! :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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hurrah... cheaper petrol prices... more pollution... more asthama. did you know that according to the WHO that in real terms 7 times as many britons die from the cr*p drivers pump out into the air than they do from passive smoking.

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When you live in a sparsely populated area,work awkward hours cheap petrol is a bonus cars or motorised transport a must.would you cycle for 3/4 of an hour at4.30in a morning in winter to get to work?any day of theweek normally 6 days oh and do call outs on your bike? think not.

 

I signed up as well to pipeline.they also hunt round for the cheapest prices in your locality weekly.

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hurrah... cheaper petrol prices... more pollution... more asthama. did you know that according to the WHO that in real terms 7 times as many britons die from the cr*p drivers pump out into the air than they do from passive smoking.

 

For some people having a car is a necessity not a luxury. If I could travel to work by public transport I would but unfortunately I am unable to so I have to drive.

 

I find petrol / diesel prices in this country to be scandalous and if I can get a few pence off then great!

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hurrah... cheaper petrol prices... more pollution... more asthama. did you know that according to the WHO that in real terms 7 times as many britons die from the cr*p drivers pump out into the air than they do from passive smoking.

 

Ok my busisness involves me driving on average 1000 miles a week all over Scotland. If you can suggest someother way for me to get to and from the different sites i have to attend i would be delighted to hear it. Petrol prices in this country are a disgrace and it is time something is done about them.

 

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yes, how about you actually pay the true costs of your business that others are suffering through their health. people choose where they live... all that rubbish about "oh i have no choice". sob sob sob.

well im out of here, i thought this place was ethical but when we have threads popping up going on "how can i pollute more cheaply" it obviously isn't. the only disgrace about petrol prices is that tens of thousands of people die every year from air pollution and then some people moan it's not cheap enough.

 

"over 1,500 people die in Scotland each year from passive smoking, there are 2,000 deaths from vehicle emissions."

 

"The European Union could save up to 161 billion euros a year by reducing deaths caused by air pollution, the World Health Organization has said.

Air pollution reduces the life of the average European by 8.6 months. "

 

"The health consequences for people with lung diseases like asthma and emphysema can lead ultimately to a premature death

Grahame Pope

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" Premature deaths due to particulate matter

Germany 65,088

Italy 39,436

France 36,868

UK 32,652"

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I am amazed - having signed up for at the petrol prices and pipeline websites, I find that my belief that Tesco fuel was always gonna be cheaper than my local garage on the corner (I live in a remote area) was completely wrong!!

 

I used to travel 7 miles to fill up at Tesco when getting my shopping, but now I find I will save 2 1/2p per litre by buying from my local garage!!

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yes, how about you actually pay the true costs of your business that others are suffering through their health. people choose where they live... all that rubbish about "oh i have no choice". sob sob sob.

well im out of here, i thought this place was ethical but when we have threads popping up going on "how can i pollute more cheaply" it obviously isn't. the only disgrace about petrol prices is that tens of thousands of people die every year from air pollution and then some people moan it's not cheap enough.

 

"over 1,500 people die in Scotland each year from passive smoking, there are 2,000 deaths from vehicle emissions."

 

"The European Union could save up to 161 billion euros a year by reducing deaths caused by air pollution, the World Health Organization has said.

Air pollution reduces the life of the average European by 8.6 months. "

 

"The health consequences for people with lung diseases like asthma and emphysema can lead ultimately to a premature death

Grahame Pope

Chartered Society of Physiotherapy"

 

" Premature deaths due to particulate matter

Germany 65,088

Italy 39,436

France 36,868

UK 32,652"

 

 

Have you actually thought that Cars are a necessary evil?

 

Maybe if the governments etc invested alot of money into the transport system to get it to a standard where everyone was able to get to whereever they needed to go by public transport then folk would have no qualms about leaving their cars at home.

 

Until that happens people are going to have to drive! So instead of moaning about how people are coming on here giving folk the choice to decide if they want to "pollute more cheaply" why don't you get onto your MP etc etc and demand they take action which allow folk to have the choice to either drive or use public transport.

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Untill the goverment / car manufacturers make none or less polluting transport cheap enough for the working class then the more affluent amongst us will have to bear the price of "hybrid"electric cars etc as well as having a conscience.

 

Transport has to be viable,wether you live in the urban areas or wherever.I did notice when i last filled up.(using price comparison sites). that the petrol/diesel was ULTRA LOW SULPHUR.

Any vehicle on u.k. roads which has a valid current M.O.T. will be as economical /fuel efficient and "clean"as possible under current regulations.As consumers we can do no better than that and use them as little as possible.i,m sure people on here can,t afford to joyride!

Question...How many bus companieswould pick me up at 0530am and bring me back at20.00hrs in the middle of Lincolnshire.

 

As for the Physio who came on.My sister is a Physiotherapist so i am aware of the distress people with respiratory disease can be in.She drives too! Give us a viable alternative and we,ll take it.

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yes, how about you actually pay the true costs of your business that others are suffering through their health. people choose where they live... all that rubbish about "oh i have no choice". sob sob sob.

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Tell me do you Drive a car?, are you that fortunate to be able to buy rent a place wherever you want to live? perhaps you dont have a car. but everyone even YOU contributes to atmospheric contamination, do you not use electricity or gas, I think you ought to look to your own contamination of the planet before you critise others

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Or you could try http://www.pipelinecard.org/ I have signed up it looks like another case of the consumer bitiing back!!!!!

 

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there are 2,000 deaths from vehicle emissions."

 

 

Thats what they tell you, when realy there is a number of diseases that our countries keep unrecognised and covered up and these would make anyone think you had all the symptoms you can find to list, so they would tell you something that they cant do any thing about. Emissions..Its a cop out statistic as per usual.

 

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