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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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ok thanks for that.

 

I contacted them about a week ago and this is the reply i got from them ................

 

Unfortunately, Exclusive Leather Sofas went into adminstration 27/07/10 and the hearing was 20/09/10. If you have paid by credit card then your best chances of recovering your money is by writing to your credit card company.

 

You can aslo write to the Insolvency practitioner-

 

Mr A Appleyard

RSM Tenon Recovery

6th Floor

Salisbury House

31 Finsbury Circus

London

EC2M 5SQ.

 

Unfortunately, there is nothing Trading standards can do to help in these circumstances.

 

 

Regards

 

Dawn Bunsie

Enforcement Officer

Consumer Advice and Assistance

Birmingham Trading Standards

Regulatory Services

PO Box 15908

Birmingham

B2 2UD

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Speak to you bank trading standards can do nothing,

 

i just spoke to my bank just have and they are aware of the company and have others issuing complaints form customers.

if you have paid by card credit or debit you can get the big law of the banks involved, go get them guys.

 

the most frustrating thing is i know for a fact they will just open again under another name again like they have been since 1987,

is there no justice in the world anymore how can they get away with it. bring back the bat man.

 

CONTACT YOUR BANK

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Yes droitwich, spoke to them today they won't give us a refund as it is being custom made, new date given is the beginning of jan

 

i dont suppose you know which person you spoke to in the shop ?? was it the older guy with the pony tail?? if so i dont suppose you got his name, as when i went in to complain he made out he was just a salesman, then one night he phoned us at 7 o clock at night and started to make out he was the chairman of the whole company and he had 22 other shops....... still would nt give me his name though.

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Hi,

 

I see that a few of you are having problems with ELS. I am a supplier to the furniture industry, and I wanted to point out that Sofa Specialists and ELS are not only different companies, but are a completely different owner.

 

I continue to supply Sofa Specialists in Droitwich and in all my dealings with them, they have been very trustworthy, paid on time, etc.... ELS had a very poor reputation in the industry, and they are not a business I have ever dealt with.

 

The 2 business should not be confused. Sofa Specialists just happen to now occupy one of the old ELS buildings. It could have easily been Next, Furniture Village or another taking the premises.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Anthony...

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Hi Anthony, thanks for the reply.

 

Let me put you in the picture.

 

We bought a sofa from the sofa specialist in droitwich, the order form is headed "the sofa specialist", if they are not the same compnay as ELS then how do you explain my credit card slip from the same shop having the heading as ELS ???

 

if they are not the same company how come there is a PRIVATE company, same location as the sofa specialist , same telephone number as the sofa specialist, and under the name of ELS... registered to the same address as the sofa specialist on the companies house website.???

 

also the so called manager of the sofa specialist is a Mr Jerome Good, he is also the senior executive/proprietor of the company called ELS.

 

He is the one who sold us our sofa at The sofa specialist in Droitwich !!!

 

Do you care to explain that one???

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We bought a sofa from the sofa specialist in droitwich, the order form is headed "the sofa specialist", if they are not the same compnay as ELS then how do you explain my credit card slip from the same shop having the heading as ELS ???

 

If they are not the same company how come there is a PRIVATE company, same location as the sofa specialist , same telephone number as the sofa specialist, and under the name of ELS... registered to the same address as the sofa specialist on the companies house website.???

 

also the so called manager of the sofa specialist is a Mr Jerome Good, he is also the senior executive/proprietor of the company called ELS.

 

He is the one who sold us our sofa at The sofa specialist in Droitwich !!!

 

Do you care to explain that one???

 

My understanding is that the business in Droitwich to which you are referring, now called 'Yes the Sofa Specialists' previously traded as 'Exclusive Lounge Sofas' hence ELS. A quick check using your preferred search engine will confirm this. No doubt the name was changed because of the very poor reputation of Exclusive Leather Sofas Ltd (ELS) and confusion between the businesses.

 

It does however raise the question why the proprietor of 'Yes the Sofa Specialists' thought it was a good idea to open a new shop in Birmingham at premises previously occupied by ELS Ltd?

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Hi,

 

Yes the store in both birmingham and droitwich used to be a land of leather store. Land of Leather has nothing to do with ELS. Land of leather now trade as World of Leather. I believe they did try to get back into the site but Sofa Specialists beat them to it.

 

Regards

 

Anthony...

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I will only repeat what i put above then which is ...............Its a bit of a coincidence then isnt it !!

 

how do you explain that "yes the sofa specialist " does not exist as a legal company and that the business registered to the same address is ELS??

 

you seem to know an awful lot about this anthiny.

 

if you are the supplier then may i ask which brands you supply the shop with please.

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As I type worcester trading standards have emailed me asking for more info as they seem to be under the opinion that by promising us a right angle corner unit and then not supplying one and then refusing to do anything about it , they are breaking various laws, sales of goods act and also theConsumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 to name just a couple.

 

Also my credit card company have been informed and they have asked for more info which we have sent.

 

Citizens advice have said that as we have the dimensions and sizes of each piece we ordered on the compliments slip then just because this hasnt been transferred to the order form it does not matter we still have evidence that will stand up in court which if i have no joy from the "sofa specialist" is an option i will take.

 

why should i have to put up with being just short of £2500, have a sofa i cant use as its too big and not what we ordered and then get phone calls late at night from salesman pretending to be the chairman of the whole company trying to scare me into backing down.

 

I dont and will persue this until i get a result.

 

you can pass this onto the shop if you want Anthony.

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how do you explain that "yes the sofa specialist " does not exist as a legal company and that the business registered to the same address is ELS??

Renton you keep using this phrase 'a legal company'. Companies House only maintain details of incorporated businesses (Limited, PLC, LLP and a few other obscure types). If 'yes the sofa specialists' are a Sole Trader as I understand they maybe then of course you won't find them on Companies House, like most probably you won't find your local butchers or greengrocers.

 

In an earlier post you refer to a 'private' company called ELS registered to the Droitwich address on Companies House. Can you explain what you mean by that term?

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i brought a sofa back in january 2010 and had nothing but problems with at the time els, when we came to paid off the balance they had changed the name to yes, now i put on a blog/thread on here back in august telling everyone to beware of this company but for some reason it was taken off, tried emailing but no one on here got back to me! i am so sorry you are having problems with them they are a bunch of bullies, i managed to get all my money back on my corner sofa which took 22 weeks instead for the 12 they told us and after loads of calls and dates where i waited in all day for nothing to turn up we finaly got a showroom model delivered by two ruff men who you would not want in your garden let alone your house! we did everything the right way and we had nothing but abuse off them they kept giving us different names of who we where speaking to when the voice at the end of the phone was the same, all i can say is get intouch with consumer direct and they will help you, they will pass on all the problems to trading standards as they did with us (worcestershire branch) the thing that won it for us was that i paid the deposit on my credit card so under the section 75 act i was able to claim all my money back. dont give up and make sure you check your sofa/chair or anything ordered off them as like i say they sent us a showroom model, the best was it was white and they didnt even bother to clean it up! they think they can get away with anything, keep notes of all dates and times calls are made and recived, recorded delivery on all letters sent. Man with pony tail there he the boss to what they say, dark haired man called mark and another older man was working there at the time we went. all a bunch of unhelpfull men once you pay your deposit. good luck and im sorry my post was removed as it may have at least warned or given you a insight into this company, i have a feeling that they had it taken off here. keep me updated as i was not going to be ripped off by these type of people, like you i work hard for my money and i dont intend to hand it over to the likes of these people for crap goods. the shop many have big windows but they where not going to see me coming!!! you have loads of rights get on the net and find out what they are and your be able to hang them out to dry. go for it.

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man with pony tail is called oliver and he has a son called jerome. they only have two shops as i rang up pretending to do some market rescerch as mark had told me that they own shops in the mail box in birmingham and one in london, the one in london is where they sold a sofa to wayne rooney, but i went on the internet and it was scs who sold it to the rooneys and they have no shops other than the one in droitwich (at the time when we ordered our sofa but i see via website that they have another in birmingham somewhere)

on my paperwork my order form and receipt has els on it. For those of you thinking of buying from them please do your homework and be perpaired to fight for your rights.

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Having major problems with Yes sofa specialist in Droitwich got a gut feeling that the company wont be there when i got to pickup

already 3 weeks late and have had 6 delivery dates which all failed. the last phone call resulted in a date given to me even though i haven't even given them my customer ref? how did they know which one i was?.

 

From A&J

We have also had problems with Yes sofa specialists,our goods are now into our 18th week of waiting after having had 4 delivery dates.

Latest excuse was the Libian crisis is affecting deliveries?????

The link to their website Quotes "English made furniture" so where does it come from????

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