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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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The take-up of the CAG toolbar is low - and we really do need some help.

 

If you haven't downloaded it then please have a look. The most important thing for us is that you use the search function because it will generate some revenue for us if you click the sponsored ads.

 

It doesn't cost you anything at all. The money comes from the sponsors of the ads.

You can download the toolbar from here

 

We have bills to pay and it is very tight at the moment.

No one gets paid except one person who does admin for us.

 

Donations are very down. Book sales have become a trickle and the couple of advertising links that we have don't produce anything much at all.

 

At the moment, any revenue of any use is produced by our search boxes at the top and the bottom of the forum.

 

We think that we can increase this if you use our toolbar on your browser and get into the habit of using it for your normal searches.

 

The revenue problem is a problem for the CAG and it is a problem for all of the people who come to us for help because it means that our existence becomes precarious.

 

You would imagine that with over quarter million registered users and 700,000 unique visitors per month that donations would be flooding in and that everything would be hunky-dory.

Well it's not like that at all. Hardly anyone donates. Some people donate £10 but most people who donate are now donating £1 or £2. I appreciate that for many people even these small sums are a sacrifice but after Paypal takes its cut, there isn't much left. And of course, the vast majority of people just don't contribute anything at all.

 

 

How can you help us?

 

Of course, if you can donate then that would be great. But if you can't afford it, then don't worry. Don't get yourselves back into debt on our account - but what you can do, at no cost to yourself, is to download our toolbar and use it to make your web searches. If enough people did that it would make a big difference.

 

How else can you help? Refer to our toolbar in your forum signatures and let your friends know.

You could even include a link to our toolbar page in your emails.

 

Whatever you can do to help.

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Just a suggestion might not work but might not...

 

Keep registration and access free; keep the donation system and book selling.

 

However would it not be sensible to say to each person that clicks to start a new thread they must register there bank details and take a direct card payment for starting the thread or bank payment? So in my case when posting my default notices cerberusalert instantly looked and gave advice the advise would still be free yet to start the thread you pay £1.00 or £2.50. That would stop people starting silly or multiple threads and make people read more on other threads giving the site team more time on each thread. Possibly charge a fee for a resource book (collaboration on basics on challenging debts) For example no need for complexed book just a summary of previous cases, letter templates comments by say Pt2645 or someone else. Some people don’t like searching lots of threads and reading page after page of comment they would possibly want to save time by buying the summary for say £9.99 or £14.99 if you included say how to deal with DCA and some legal issues...Sorry if you already do some of this just trying to help.

 

Possibly even a VIP area “coffee room” where if you prefer to only have you questions answered by the site team or authorised contributors the you pay say a standing order for monthly access and post your questions so on that may appeal to both more educated people that want an intelligent response and also to people who find the whole thing difficult and want to have there hand held a little.

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. Please do not PM me I do not use the PM service. Please use a link on my thread for any help or to talk.

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Thanks for the suggestion.

 

I think that if we did this, a huge number of people would not bother to post at all. This means that the information base would become outdated and the resource would die.

Also we have always kept completely away from anything which might discriminate between or distinguish between rich and poor (so-to-speak). So access is available on an equal basis for everyone.

We don't award badges or colours for people who donate and we don't operate VIP lounges or any other system of privileges to reqward contributors.

 

Finally, it would worry me that the Min of Justice might say that we are giving advice in return for payment - not to mention the risk of incurring legal liability for peope who suffer loss for relying on the advice here.

 

At the end of the day we have to rely on people's own sense of value

(and that doesn't seem to be working too well at the moment!!)

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Oh, well I won't embarrass myself further. Just to say all the best I will donate when I get a new job (interview next week.)

 

This site is amazing and I think that what you have done is fantastic. I suppose I just hope it makes you some money so that you can keep it going and provide for your family.

 

One last thing what about a separate business using your servers to provide a web hosting service?

 

Best of luck

 

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Thanks for the good will.

We don't make any moey on it - we don't get paid.

 

The kind of business you suggest is very interesting but we only have one server and our disk space is limited.

 

Also, running this forum for nothing is personally very demanding. I don't think that we have the personal resources to run to another business.

 

The CAG is quite enough!!!

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The kind of business you suggest is very interesting but we only have one server and our disk space is limited.

That wouldn't be a good idea tbh - you'll get a lot of support issues etc and if you don't have a strong team behind you then it will fail, and cause you more hassles than it's worth.

 

I will be sending through a donation over the next week or so, as soon as Barclays and Lloyds transfer the refunds to my account. Also, know what you mean about PP fees, pretty much suck up anything under a couple of pounds (have you thought of direct bank transfers, as I'd prefer that).

Also, you might want to check on the link for the ad banner on the left (the yellow one on baliff law) as when I clicked on it I went to a 'restricted page'.

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Yes you're right. That won't help us.

 

I don't know what went wrong but it is corrected now.

 

Mind you I see that you are a recent Cagger.

We always appreciate a donation but we generally recommend that you have a win and a payout before you start giving it away - even to us!

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Recent signup here,

 

Just reading your post on generating revenue for CAG. Some of your members are in the process of helping me with my debt issue for which I am very grateful, and as I am a multimedia designer myself if you would like I would be happy to help out with a web advertising strategy. Tried to send a message but unable to!

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Recent signup here,

 

Just reading your post on generating revenue for CAG. Some of your members are in the process of helping me with my debt issue for which I am very grateful, and as I am a multimedia designer myself if you would like I would be happy to help out with a web advertising strategy. Tried to send a message but unable to!

 

Welcome to the forums.

 

have you e-mailed admin (at) consumeractiongroup.co.uk ?

 

Give it a go if you've not already done so!

 

Best wishes,

 

Seq.

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Yes you're right. That won't help us.

 

I don't know what went wrong but it is corrected now.

 

Mind you I see that you are a recent Cagger.

We always appreciate a donation but we generally recommend that you have a win and a payout before you start giving it away - even to us!

 

Bankfodder, was that aim at me? I had a couple of 'wins' early in the year but didn't need to start a thread as I grouped some together - anyway I sent a cheque the other month.

 

Oh and Tatsuyace - what's a 'web advertising strategy'? Adwords by any chance? What CAG needs to do is create about 1,000 pages of content approx 750-1,000 words long and link to different threads on here - then they'd get more 'love' in the search engines. It would then be 'easier' to moneytise those posts than placing ads all across the forum, as a lot of the ads on here won't be viewed and their clickthrough rate will be rubbish due to 'ad blindness'.

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prob need to reset internet explorer

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You would imagine that with over quarter million registered users and 700,000 unique visitors per month that donations would be flooding in and that everything would be hunky-dory.

Well it's not like that at all. Hardly anyone donates. Some people donate £10 but most people who donate are now donating £1 or £2. I appreciate that for many people even these small sums are a sacrifice but after Paypal takes its cut, there isn't much left. And of course, the vast majority of people just don't contribute anything at all.

I have to say, the problem might be that it's not at all obvious how to make a donation.

 

I'm looking at this page, about the donations crisis, and I don't see a link on it to make one. Looking at the Main Forum page, I don't see one there either. Have you considered putting it in the main navigation bar, and/or the footer at the bottom of each page?

 

I don't mean to be negative about it but I'm not a big fan of installing toolbars. They use resources and take up real estate on the screen.

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the link to donate is at the bottom of every single email alert

of thread activity from cag

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Well, I have to say, I've never noticed that, so it can't be working very well :)

 

I don't read notification emails properly, I just click the link.

 

I used to work for a local charity and was responsible for the website. We had a little piggy bank under the left navigation menu with a couple of words asking for donations. That seemed to work.

 

Also, why use Paypal to process the donations and pay a large part of it as a fee? There are organisations that specifically deal in online donations.

 

We used to use efundraising.org.uk, though their website isn't responding just now - not a great advert. I have a friend who runs marathons, and raises quite a lot of money through justgiving.com.

 

The (very visible) bit on our site used to say

 

We rely on donations

to continue our work.

Please click here to donate

via credit card, debit card or CharityCard

(Picture of a little green piggy, which the forum won't allow me to post)

 

I'll make a donation once I've paid my winter gas and electricity bills.

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scan the required letters/agreements/sheets

as a picture[jpg] file

remove all pers info inc barcodes etc using paint program

but leave all figures and dates.

 

goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites

it would be better to upload a multipage pdf

than many single ones

or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

or use word and save as pdf

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

NB:you can set where it goes in the post by hitting insert inline.

then hit reply button

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Well, I have to say, I've never noticed that, so it can't be working very well :)

 

I don't read notification emails properly, I just click the link.

 

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yes it might be an good idea to make it at the top of the emails

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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dx100uk, I'm not sure where you're going with the PDF instructions, but in the list of what I can and can't do at the bottom of the page, it says I can't attach files.

 

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Never mind. Picture, if you will, a very cute small green piggy bank. It's really better if you can see it but such is life.

 

The point is, subtlety is not your friend when you're trying to raise money. You need to rattle the collection tin a bit more, IMHO.

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you can attach files just not post embeded links

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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cant see any reason why

i'll flag it up

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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