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I may be wrong but I doubt they'll start the court action anytime soon. HSBC are already on dodgy ground. Have MBNA issued a DN or TN?

 

 

They've issued a default notice which i will put up for you, they've been sort of happy to accept 50 pounds a month for the time being severe hardship etc... sent letter of acknowledging their termination (final demand..)to helen packwood yesterday..

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Thanks babybear! as i've said they've got my mobile number which i don't mind but my wife's health isn't too good to be getting calls at home if they find out our home number!!! If they do i just fire off that harassment letter then? you've both been brilliant to me so far many many thanks...

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Thanks babybear! as i've said they've got my mobile number which i don't mind but my wife's health isn't too good to be getting calls at home if they find out our home number!!! If they do i just fire off that harassment letter then? you've both been brilliant to me so far many many thanks...

 

If you can afford it by one of the 'Truecall' gadgets (about £90) they are brilliant. The calls on my landline were seriously getting me down and I even thought about changing our number. We now don't get ANY calls on our landline - apart from people we want to speak to of course!

Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooce's success's so far:

 

Capital One - 15% f & f saving £4,250

Barclaycard - 25% f & f saving £12,000

Blackhorse - reduced loan settlement saving £1,605

Cahoot - 15% f & f saving £2,740

MBNA - 20% f & f saving £26,800

Lloyds TSB 28% f & f saving £7,377

 

Total written off to date: £54,772!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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just had a phone call from an adam davie at hsbc collections saying about reduced payments? went through some details with him including does my account end in 321etc told him will make a payment on the 30th (am in process of changing accounts.) specified to him not to take any money out as i will send electronic payment ( he said our calls are recorded and we will not take any money out!) what's my next step cos i don't trust these a holes 1 bit?

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just had a phone call from an adam davie at hsbc collections saying about reduced payments? went through some details with him including does my account end in 321etc told him will make a payment on the 30th (am in process of changing accounts.) specified to him not to take any money out as i will send electronic payment ( he said our calls are recorded and we will not take any money out!) what's my next step cos i don't trust these a holes 1 bit?

 

Firstly - don't speak to them. If you feel the urge to, just tell them your account is in dispute and you want all communication in writing.

 

I wouldn't pay them. You have sent the unlawful repudiation letter. You now need to demonstrate that not only have you written accepting this unlawful repudiation but that also, through your actions i.e. not paying, you further cement your argument that as far as you are concerned the agreement is at an end. If you were to pay them anything it would only be a payment against the arrears that were outstanding at the date of the DN (because legally that is all you now owe them).

 

The decision to continue paying is yours but you need to be careful as it could affect your argument with regard to unlawful repudiation.

Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooce's success's so far:

 

Capital One - 15% f & f saving £4,250

Barclaycard - 25% f & f saving £12,000

Blackhorse - reduced loan settlement saving £1,605

Cahoot - 15% f & f saving £2,740

MBNA - 20% f & f saving £26,800

Lloyds TSB 28% f & f saving £7,377

 

Total written off to date: £54,772!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oh not going to pay brooce! just saying that until that account is closed and mines shifted which should be before the end of the month, coincidence that today i have about 6 calls after sending that letter yesterday, just worried about that right to set off thing or can't they do that yet? as i said to the guy i expressly forbid you to take any money from that account etc

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Oh not going to pay brooce! just saying that until that account is closed and mines shifted which should be before the end of the month, coincidence that today i have about 6 calls after sending that letter yesterday, just worried about that right to set off thing or can't they do that yet? as i said to the guy i expressly forbid you to take any money from that account etc

 

Set off could be a problem. Is your current account a joint one? Do you have a HSBC current account in the same name (solely) as the credit card?

 

Read this from the FOS about set off:

 

banking: firms' right of 'set off'

Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooce's success's so far:

 

Capital One - 15% f & f saving £4,250

Barclaycard - 25% f & f saving £12,000

Blackhorse - reduced loan settlement saving £1,605

Cahoot - 15% f & f saving £2,740

MBNA - 20% f & f saving £26,800

Lloyds TSB 28% f & f saving £7,377

 

Total written off to date: £54,772!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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no it's joint account she's shifted her wages to her barclays account i've opened a natwest jobbie

 

Sounds like you're on top of the job. That link to the FOS does seem to say that banks can't use set off to empty a joint account to pay one of the parties debts - only fair really.

Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooce's success's so far:

 

Capital One - 15% f & f saving £4,250

Barclaycard - 25% f & f saving £12,000

Blackhorse - reduced loan settlement saving £1,605

Cahoot - 15% f & f saving £2,740

MBNA - 20% f & f saving £26,800

Lloyds TSB 28% f & f saving £7,377

 

Total written off to date: £54,772!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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phew thank goodness for that!!!they'll be stuffed at end of month

wondered why they are suddenly trying to get me into reduced payment scheme when b4 they just ignored me?

 

Prospect of them getting sh*te all just dawning on them!

Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooce's success's so far:

 

Capital One - 15% f & f saving £4,250

Barclaycard - 25% f & f saving £12,000

Blackhorse - reduced loan settlement saving £1,605

Cahoot - 15% f & f saving £2,740

MBNA - 20% f & f saving £26,800

Lloyds TSB 28% f & f saving £7,377

 

Total written off to date: £54,772!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Amazing how somebody has actually been nice to me from the worlds bank!!! wanted my home number as usual said no chance because of wife's health not having you phone up and upset her!!! As i've mentioned the joint account with the overdraft was the only thing that linked her to me now thats paid off (cheers mum..) we can close that account swop all dd to my new account and they can come after me she'll be safe as there are no debts in her name (apart from mortgage, shared ownership so they're stuffed there for going after the house....) As long as her credit rating doesn't suffer i don't care.... Thats how much they've changed me in 4 months

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Well apart from that phone call broooce not heard a peep out of them, will most probably change when i don't pay em tomorrow then it'll most probably be midden and windmill time!!!!

 

The post has a habit of blowing in more sh*te. But hey ho, marching on together as they say in Leeds!

Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooce's success's so far:

 

Capital One - 15% f & f saving £4,250

Barclaycard - 25% f & f saving £12,000

Blackhorse - reduced loan settlement saving £1,605

Cahoot - 15% f & f saving £2,740

MBNA - 20% f & f saving £26,800

Lloyds TSB 28% f & f saving £7,377

 

Total written off to date: £54,772!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The post has a habit of blowing in more sh*te. But hey ho, marching on together as they say in Leeds!

 

 

Yeah can't wait for all those lovely threat-o-grams and phone calls.... Just the thing to keep my spirits up.... wonder how nasty they'll turn after today what did they do with you buddy?

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Yeah can't wait for all those lovely threat-o-grams and phone calls.... Just the thing to keep my spirits up.... wonder how nasty they'll turn after today what did they do with you buddy?

 

Ey up mate. I haven't paid them a penny in over 6 months and I'm pretty well at the exact same stage as you (maybe a week or two ahead). Same dodgy DN, same final demand and same letter (got it on the same day as you) threatening DCA's unless I paid. Can't wait for the next instalment!

Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooce's success's so far:

 

Capital One - 15% f & f saving £4,250

Barclaycard - 25% f & f saving £12,000

Blackhorse - reduced loan settlement saving £1,605

Cahoot - 15% f & f saving £2,740

MBNA - 20% f & f saving £26,800

Lloyds TSB 28% f & f saving £7,377

 

Total written off to date: £54,772!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Well i missed one payment back in december and have been paying em 50 quid a month till now and still got the same cr@p as you!!!!! and 0nly 886.61 has been added in interest etc so if i can get em for the rest of the 8k ( that'll be a bonus.) if not through the courts and 50 quid a month for 10yrs.... either way, and maybe same with mbna must upload their dn for you to see? but they've not sent me anything else at all yet?

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Hey broooce how you holding up? any news on your end? Nothing so far here, but then i don't get post till 2 o'clock onwards am sort of expecting the phone calls to start today tho....

 

Just another BS automated letter dated the 28th April giving me 7 days to get in touch to prevent the account being passed to a DCA. The letter goes on to state they are willing to '..come to an arrangement to settle the debt...we are prepared to accept a reasonable final payment from, which is less that the full amount..we will write off a proportion of the debt..'

 

I offered them 15% months ago and they refused it. I'll offer it again!

Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooce's success's so far:

 

Capital One - 15% f & f saving £4,250

Barclaycard - 25% f & f saving £12,000

Blackhorse - reduced loan settlement saving £1,605

Cahoot - 15% f & f saving £2,740

MBNA - 20% f & f saving £26,800

Lloyds TSB 28% f & f saving £7,377

 

Total written off to date: £54,772!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Normally they want it up front. But I have read of others who managed to negotiate a low f & f and then paid it over installments several months. I think half the battle is getting your letters onto the desk of the right person. All that HSBC seem to send is standard drivel that they issue by the hundred.

Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooce's success's so far:

 

Capital One - 15% f & f saving £4,250

Barclaycard - 25% f & f saving £12,000

Blackhorse - reduced loan settlement saving £1,605

Cahoot - 15% f & f saving £2,740

MBNA - 20% f & f saving £26,800

Lloyds TSB 28% f & f saving £7,377

 

Total written off to date: £54,772!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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