Advent Computer Training (Barclays Partner Finance)Info and discussion thread

[cHankin]

don't mean to be rude or nuthing,because i think what everyone is doing to solve this is amazing,but do you think we are gettin anywere? am really worried they gunna expect this 11k soon man. i have every letter barclays have sent me and also the 2nd copy of the form i signed.plus the stupid folder i got of advent,i aint the brightest when it comes to stuff like this am really worried.

[10pack]

don't mean to be rude or nuthing,because i think what everyone is doing to solve this is amazing,but do you think we are gettin anywere? am really worried they gunna expect this 11k soon man. i have every letter barclays have sent me and also the 2nd copy of the form i signed.plus the stupid folder i got of advent,i aint the brightest when it comes to stuff like this am really worried.

 

You got a folder? I just had bits paperwork in a envelope

[On Hook]

It's just silly waiting GAME Right NOW, they play but WE MUST WIN!!!!

[cHankin]

its funny because,they sent me that introduction folder or what ever that piece of ****e was,and i had no interest in reading it,because i had already made the mistake signin with them,and they never ever once fought of contactin me to see what the delay was? now even if i refused to do the course i am signed to them,so they should still really be sendin work to me,never recieved nuthin but one folder in feb 09! am gunna fight this to the end with u guys

[Bluedo]

don't mean to be rude or nuthing,because i think what everyone is doing to solve this is amazing,but do you think we are gettin anywere? am really worried they gunna expect this 11k soon man. i have every letter barclays have sent me and also the 2nd copy of the form i signed.plus the stupid folder i got of advent,i aint the brightest when it comes to stuff like this am really worried.

 

Hi Chankin,

I know exactly how you feel and it's very worrying Martin has made a seperate thread for people like you and me who are either yet to start paying or like me have just started. Except I'm not paying for receiving nothing.

Drop a post in there as it'll help to see how many need a certain letter involving these circumstances. And anyone else reading please do this too.

 

My lump sum was due beginning March but they added the interest anyway.

even though it was on hold. Don't worry click the red triangle and join in and fight back.

[10pack]

its funny because,they sent me that introduction folder or what ever that piece of ****e was,and i had no interest in reading it,because i had already made the mistake signin with them,and they never ever once fought of contactin me to see what the delay was? now even if i refused to do the course i am signed to them,so they should still really be sendin work to me,never recieved nuthin but one folder in feb 09! am gunna fight this to the end with u guys

 

Can I ask.. you signed up Febuary 2009 and they never sent you any course work?.. and you never thought to contact them in the past 12 months??

[cjclegg]

Bluedo, where is the location of the new thread???

[Bluedo]

Bluedo, where is the location of the new thread???

 

Hi cj,

Go to thread list after students where this thread title is and below is

Advent/Barclay's Partner Finance /Hitachi +Payment Demands

[cHankin]

thank you Bluedo ,10 pack..i told them that i aint payin for the course because its a conn,i sent barclays a written letter on feb askin to be canceld with immediate effect,and they told me i missed the right to cancel by 2 days,now they could have had the letter 2 days before..but waited to reply..i dont know,so i was really ****ed,they bassically said i have a year..then i got the letter sayin advent went under,no wounder..but then they found a new ****whole to fill the whole?.

[cjclegg]

Hi cj,

Go to thread list after students where this thread title is and below is

Advent/Barclay's Partner Finance /Hitachi +Payment Demands

 

Thanks Bluedo, believe I am in same boat as you, ie, not paid anything as yet, my repayments are due to start in July of this year, should I go to the new thread or stay here?

[Bluedo]

Thanks Bluedo, believe I am in same boat as you, ie, not paid anything as yet, my repayments are due to start in July of this year, should I go to the new thread or stay here?

 

Hi cj

I think Martin wants an idea how many have still to pay although there's more info in this thread that applies to all of us maybe post a bit over there to get an idea who will need a certain kind letter I think

[cjclegg]

thank you Bluedo, much appreciated.

[MARTIN3030]

Thanks I can acknowledge around 25 reports.

Basically I thought it would be a good idea to offer the help to those who are not being represented by solicitors-I think its reasonable to assume that this group will be taking guidance from them.

[DaleLincs]

Hi I don't mean to put a spanner in the works and will delete this post if it is out of context, but please you guys have a read of my case and see if it has any relation to what you guys are going through, as admin and other site members just keep referring me to this thread. here goes...

 

In April 2007, I was a 19yr old young man preyed upon by a Computeach pressure salesman. He promised me only 8 hours a week of study would be fine to complete the course in two years. I have this on my copy of the contract signed by Computeach and myself.

 

I also explained to the salesman my personal situation with my son whom at the time was seriously/terminally ill. He assured me that it wouldn't be a problem etc and again like most other people on these forums was promised a world of 'personal' tutoring, support, individually tailored tutoring etc etc. I have all my records in order.

 

The financial side of it was funded through a Barclays Career Devlopment Loan for 80% of the course fees. The other 20% of the course fees were funded via a company called Marehill Finance, who I understand to be Computeach's 'in house' finance department.

 

Barclays Loan - £3800.00

Marehill Finance - £750.00

Deposit - £200

 

Course Total - £4750

 

I managed to complete my first part of the course which was the IC3 module, so around 25% of the total course length.

 

I kept in touch with computeach via email about my personal situation and did ask on several occassions for a refund and to cancel the course they said it wouldn't be possible even in my situation and all they would do is give me a 12month extention on the course.

 

I am claiming for a partial refund and have informed barlcays by way of letter that I am looking for a refund from computeach so that I can pay off the loan I have with them. As regards to the Marehill finance part of the finance, I have been paying that since June 2007 and it is fully paid off in June 2010.

 

I am looking for advice on how to go about claiming my course fees back, including examination fees that I havent even sat. Also how to tidy up the finance and get these loans cleared, hopefully in the way of a refund via Computeach.

 

Sorry for the lengthy post but I am thorough

[DaleLincs]

I am also getting to the point where I don't know wether to just cancel my standing order with barclays, move my bank account (I bank with Barclays) and let them chase me for the money/take me to court and have it all out there?

[MARTIN3030]

Hi Dale good to see you here.

Yes it was me who contacted you and referred you here after I stumbled on your post which was in the general forum.

I did move your post here.

I was interested to read of your finance deal with Marehill and it prompted me to look into their dealings.

Up to you posting I was not aware of Marehill except to see they were showing as registered at the same postcode as Computeach on the ICO public register.

 

I also thought it was interesting to see that Barclays had been in co-operation with Computeach with finance previously - which I dont think anyone was aware of.

Presumably this was before Advent were partnered with BPF.

Having looked at their Consumer Credit Licence,I saw that Marehill Finances Consumer Credit Licence expired in June 2009 and there appears to be no conclusive sight of it being renewed.

I have contacted both the OFT and Dudley trading standards to get clarification.

Can you please indicate Marehills address and postcode from your last communications from them ?

And also any company reg details from their letters.

Thanks.

[MARTIN3030]

Dale have you also still got copies of the agreements you made with Barclays and Marehill ?

[wasabi project]

Martin, I am due to start repaying on 30/04/10, so i am worried that they may start taking money from my account. would would you advise i do?

[MARTIN3030]

Can you give a brief outline of your situ?

[MARTIN3030]

Also is your DD/SO mandates still set up with them ?

[DaleLincs]

Dale have you also still got copies of the agreements you made with Barclays and Marehill ?

 

 

Hi Martin, yes it has all come together for me now and I think I have landed in the right place.

 

I have ALL copies of any agreements made between myself, Marehill Finance, and also BPF.

 

Quick question, now they have no longer got a licence could I cancel my direct debit to them and not worry about debt collectors?

 

Secondly, here is Marehill Finance's last address I have on my credit agreement with them;

 

Marehill Finance LTD

University House

Jews Lane

Dudley

W. Midlands

DY3 2AH

 

Yes you may recognise this address, as it is EXACTLY the same building that CT trade from and where there in-house training happens, if it happens at all.

 

I have sources a second address, which is Vittoria Street, Birmingham, West Midslands, B1 3ND

 

Consumer Credit Licence no. 156676

Company House no. 1764942

[wasabi project]

Can you give a brief outline of your situ?

 

signed up with them 30 April 2009, decided didnt want to continue so tried to cancel with advent, but no-one got back to me. I haven't paid anything yet, but due to start paying on 30/04/2010. As far as im aware any DD has not been cancelled. I was going to pay everything in one go, but definately dont want to be paying anything now. getting worried as im unemployed and cant really afford to pay out £5000, and i have already decided on another career path to persue. please advise as best you can

[42man]

I haven't had a chance to read 2100+ threads, but if it was me in some people's situation then I would not be paying a penny, it seems blatantly obvious that the contract/agreement will not be fulfilled....this just sounds a little similar to the Park Hampers situation from a few years ago. If there are those that have paid and it is unlikely that they are going to be getting anything else from this company then it would seem to be an unlawful recission of contract on their part.....I would write/use Consumer Direct / Trading Standards / Local MP / OFT and the FOS. Were they part of any governing association or trade body ? Also it might be worth contacting the official receiver too. If there is a lawyer representing one or a few then hopefully it should filter through to the rest of those in a similar situation. If any people do get contacted by a debt collector, then let us know.....

[DaleLincs]

So I am to write to trading standards and consumer direct and cease any payments asap? await to hear from them and then take it from there?

 

One point to make is that I havent actually contacted CT recently requesting a refund as I have seen it as pointless and chose to contact BPF first. Computeach are part of ALOT of 'industry' governing bodies, of which I find probable that they are all in on the [problem]?

[Bluedo]

Sorry can't get the link to work at the min but PKF have issued a new FAQ on sale of Advent to Computeach

Edited April 2, 2010 by Bluedo