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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hi

My Husband Is Due In Court For A Bankruptcy Hearing On The 13/11/2009 As I Have Dealt With This For Him I Will Be In Attendance...the Amount On The Petition Is 1722 This Has Since Been Reduced To 1197 As We Were Paying 100 Per Month On A Payment Plan...we Got Behind A Month Or Two So Contacted Thesolicitors Hollis Briggs Who Act On Behalf Of Go Debt....and Asked To Reduce It To £50 Per Month (my Husband Is Self Employed And Work Was A Little Dry) They Refused This And Went For Bankruptcy...this Upcoming Hearing Was Originally Set In March But Has Been Ajourned Three Times By Hollis Briggs As We Kept To The Plan.....

I Have Filed A 6.19 With The Court And Copies Of All Emails That Have Gone To And Throw Which Do Not Make Hollis Briggs Look Good As They Are Rude,threatening,unreasonable Etc Etc...

We Also Wrote A Detailed Explanation To The Judge

What I Was Wondering Is Can The Court Sort Out Repayment Offers...are We Likely To Be Bankrupt For This Amount...basically Anyone Out There Be Through Similar...any Reassuring Cases Welcomed...we Are Nervous But At The Same Time Believe Hopefully A Judge Will See Through This Greedy Lot...we Have Offered 50 Per Month Which We Think Is Quite Fair...any Advice...can The Judge Throw It Out...they Are Claiming 1800 Cost Despite Which We Believe They Will Try And Start A New Petition Over....

Thanks

Jenny

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Are there any excessive penatly charges that have been added to the debt ?

 

Did they carry out the process correctly with the bankruptcy petition ? How was it served on you ? Is their petition filled out properly ?

 

You need a good judge, make sure the petition was served and written correctly (in line with this High Court Judgment) Was the stat demand served properly ?

 

Judge Boggis QC - RE AWAN - [2000] BPIR 241

Then r 6.15 says:

(1) Service of the petition should be proved by affidavit.

(2) The affidavit shall have exhibited to it -

(a) a sealed copy of the petition, and

(b) if substituted service has been ordered, a sealed copy of the order;

and it should be filed in court immediately after service.

'In my judgment, bankruptcy is one of the most serious forms of execution that can be brought against a debtor. In any bankruptcy proceedings it is, in my view, absolutely clear that the provisions as to service must be followed exactly. The rules provide in terms that the petition must be supported by an affidavit of service showing how the petition was served, and express reference is made to substituted service and the way in which that then is to be proved, which involves the affidavit of service having with it a sealed copy of the order.' - JUDGE BOGGIS QC - SITTING AS A JUDGE OF THE HIGH COURT

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I would also say that they are being VERY unreasonable in the current financial climate in not allowing your repayment proposals....(and if you have a half decent judge then he would agree with that)..

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If there is any abuse of the process then you should ask for your costs, and get the petition thrown out....

 

we dont dispute the debt but their tactics are so vile.

 

i THREATENED TO BRING THE ACCOUNT UNDER 750 SO THEY COULD NOT PURSUE THE B/P (BLUFFING) AND THEY REFUSED TO TAKE ANY FURTHER PAYMENTS SAYING WE WERE TRYING TO GET OUT OF B/R...AFTER ADVISING THEM THEY WERE DUTY BOUND TO TAKE MY PAYMENTS THEY SAID THEY WOULD TAKE 100 PER MONTH BUT STILL WANT TO GO TO COURT TO GET THEIR COST ASSESED....COST THEY BROUGHT ON THEMSELVES BY ORIGINALLY REFUSING A REPAYMENT PLAN WHEN THIS ALL STARTED ONLY TO ACCEPT IT AFTER FILING PETITION THEN CONTINUOUSLY MOVING DATE RATHER THAN DISMISSING IT...I REALLY HOPE A JUDGE SEES THROUGH THIS ....BUT IS IT LIKELY THAT THEY WILL B/R US...IN MY 6.19 I STATED THAT SHOULD A COURT CONSIDER THE B/R I WOULD REQUEST TIME TO SORT AN IVA...

ANY ADVICE

JENNY

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I would take a very close look at the way the demand and petition were served too. You'd be surprised how many solicitors make basic mistakes....unless you get an incredibly friendly judge then he won't necessarily help you with the process....

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If there is any abuse of the process then you should ask for your costs, and get the petition thrown out....

Itruly believe they are using the system to bump up there cost...if cost are awarded do you think i can ask the court to group it together and set a repayment plan based on the whole amount....otherwise i believe they will then start demanding this amount if its over 750,reject repayment offers and file all over again...

 

what cost could i claim against them if any...

cheers

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In order for a judge to officially set aside/dismiss, then it will either have to be under the £750 threshold, or you will have a substantial dispute, or there is an abuse of process, unfortunately being in a repayment plan itself is not enough excuse for a judge to set aside....although it would be frowned upon and be considered unreasonable....a judge who is not on your side would grant it....

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HHJ Peter Coulson QC sets out in Jacob v Vockrodt [2007] EWHC 2403 (QB) when petitioning is an abuse of process that could involve the tort of malicious presentation of a bankruptcy petition.

 

The key parts of the judgement on abuse of process are:

 

 

Mr. Davies relied on the well-known passage in the judgment of Harman J in Re a Company [1983] BCLC 492 in which he said:

 

"First, it is trite law that the Companies Court is not and should not be used as (despite the methods in fact often adopted) a debt-collecting court. The proper remedy for debt collecting is an execution upon a judgment, a distress, a garnishee order or some such procedure. On a petition in the Companies Court, in contrast with an ordinary action there is not a true lis between the petitioner and the company which they can deal with as they will. The true position is that a creditor petitioning the Companies Court is invoking a class right (see Re Crigglestone v. Coal Co. [1986] 2 Ch 327) and his petition must be governed by whether he is truly invoking that right on behalf of himself and all others of his class rateably, or whether he has some private purpose in view. It has long been an order that a petition presented for the purpose of putting pressure on the company is not properly presented: see Re a Company [1894] 2 Ch. 349 and, in a slightly different context, Re Bellador Silk Ltd. [1965] 1 All ER 667."

It is, of course, right that a bankruptcy petition must not be utilised where the petitioner knows that the debt is the subject of a bona fide dispute, but chooses to proceed with the petition in any event, so as to put illegitimate pressure on the other party to pay the debt. But the authorities cited above cannot be taken as authority for any wider principle or proposition. In my judgment, the correct approach to the facts, in a situation where the petition has failed and it is subsequently suggested that the presentation was malicious, was that applied in Partizan Ltd v OJ Kilkenny & Co Ltd [1998] 1 BCLC 157 by Rimer J, when he concluded at page 173:

 

"It follows that I am not satisfied that, when it presented the petition, Kilkenny was moved by notice or considerations different in any way from those which ordinarily motivate creditors who petition to wind up a company on the grounds that a debt claimed to be due to them (not being one which is regarded by the petitioner as disputed on substantial grounds) is unpaid despite demand; namely, at least an element of hope that, if the company can pay the debt despite its previous failure to do so, it will pay it and, if it cannot do so, a hope and expectation that it will be placed in liquidation so that there can be an orderly realisation of its assets for the benefit of its creditors generally."

What the cases show (and the point I take Rimer J to be addressing by the phrase in brackets in the quotation from his judgment set out above), is that the presentation of a petition is an abuse of process only if the petitioner knows or believes that the debt is in truth the subject of a substantial dispute.

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It might also be worth quoting the above case to the judge too....

 

As for your costs have a look here

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/dca-legal-successes/211818-lowell-hampton-statutory-demand-3.html#post2337865

 

LIP means Litigant In Person costs which is what you should claim....(unless of course you have a solicitor with you)

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Quote this to the judge...

 

Mr. Davies relied on the well-known passage in the judgment of Harman J in Re a Company [1983] BCLC 492 in which he said:

"First, it is trite law that the Companies Court is not and should not be used as (despite the methods in fact often adopted) a debt-collecting court. The proper remedy for debt collecting is an execution upon a judgment, a distress, a garnishee order or some such procedure

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HIYA all

 

what an awful situation you find yourself in and fab info from 42man ive learnt yet again something useful for myself now too

 

wishing you luck and keep positive have subbed to your thread

 

laters angel x

Im happy to help with support and my own thoughts, but if I offer any thoughts to your problems please take it as from my life experience only and not of any legal standing. Always take further advice from the legal experts in your final action.:)

 

my new motto is,,,",Taking back control of your life and home - such peace is priceless"

 

This is all due to truecall device , have a serious peek at this you will be thankful like I am x laters angel :D

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If we take a chance and pay nothing before hearing and the worse happens and some idiot judge grants the petition...would we be able at hearing to offer to bring it below 750 there and then or is it to late at that stage

if we were made bankrupt still is there a period in which to settle the debt and still be able to get it annulled.

the thing that gets me is that this company will gain nothing through b/r my husband our house is in negative equity,we have no assets...plus as the petition is in his name only available to the official receiver is precisely 50% of nothing......should i point this out to the judge

tomorrow i am taking down to the court all the emails sent to us by the **** bags a letter of defence and a 6.19 form (and now that excellent judgement 42 man...thankyou...)

I keep thinking surely no judge will grant this but i'm just worried how it goes on the day.....many thanks for any answers to my points....

jenny

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any answers anyone or thoughts....this is really affecting mine and my husbands health...i have constant butterflies the petition is not in my name but being his wife etc it would still affect me and my children

thanks

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Your defence MUST be an affadavit....like this. (it also needs to be sworn in at the court) If need be then a witness statement also needs to be included....you either need a good and understanding judge, or you need to look at a potential abuse of process....

 

AFFIDAVIT

I (name) of (address), (occupation)

MAKE OATH and say as follows:

____________________________________

Signature

SWORN AT (address)

this day of year

before me,

____________________________________

(A Solicitor or Commissioner for Oaths)

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Just to clarify ... Once you are declared bankrupt then it happens at that instant. The financial situation is that applying then.

Once you are declared bankrupt the Official Receiver takes on all your debts and all your assets. He will want to realise your assets in order to satisfy your debts.

It seems Hollis Briggs have somehow come to the view that you have sufficient assets to pay off your debt to them - as well as all their costs. Don't forget that their court costs of bringing the action in order to declare you bankrupt are very much higher than you making your own petition. Add on their own fees and you can come to quite a large amount.

 

Do you own your own home? Or at least have some equity in it? If you have then it seems rather odd that HB haven't applied for a charging order.

I really do appreciate all those 'thank you' emails - I'm glad I've been able to help. Apologies if I haven't acknowledged all of them.

You can also ding my gong if you prefer. :)

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Just to clarify ... Once you are declared bankrupt then it happens at that instant. The financial situation is that applying then.

Once you are declared bankrupt the Official Receiver takes on all your debts and all your assets. He will want to realise your assets in order to satisfy your debts.

It seems Hollis Briggs have somehow come to the view that you have sufficient assets to pay off your debt to them - as well as all their costs. Don't forget that their court costs of bringing the action in order to declare you bankrupt are very much higher than you making your own petition. Add on their own fees and you can come to quite a large amount.

 

Do you own your own home? Or at least have some equity in it? If you have then it seems rather odd that HB haven't applied for a charging order.

 

hi we do own our home but its in negative equity at present with already two leans on the property totalling about 1500

the house is in my and my husbands name but the petition is only in his name

h/b stand to gain nothing from this and i cant believe a judge would order it....ironically these people will not accept 50 per month on a 1197 debt yet today a creditor who we owe £13000 has accepted 25 p/m....crazy

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hi we do own our home but its in negative equity at present with already two leans on the property totalling about 1500

the house is in my and my husbands name but the petition is only in his name

h/b stand to gain nothing from this and i cant believe a judge would order it....ironically these people will not accept 50 per month on a 1197 debt yet today a creditor who we owe £13000 has accepted 25 p/m....crazy

 

To be fair, with debts such as the one you stated above, negative equity and no assets, Bankruptcy would not be such a bad thing unless there are other factors you havn't mentioned. Are there any business assets that could be affected.

I am not saying you should go ahead and let it happen if that's not what you want but remember that if you are made BR, then ALL other debts would be included too, not just the one being petitioned for.

Of course I will pay you everything you say I owe with no proof.

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To be fair, with debts such as the one you stated above, negative equity and no assets, Bankruptcy would not be such a bad thing unless there are other factors you havn't mentioned. Are there any business assets that could be affected.

I am not saying you should go ahead and let it happen if that's not what you want but remember that if you are made BR, then ALL other debts would be included too, not just the one being petitioned for.

 

hi

yeah we are inclined to agree...all we wonder is does it affect the mortgage?? i mean its a joint mortgage but hubby is the earner....even if the official receiver does not take the house (50% of nothing) will the mortgage company allow my husband to keep the mortgage as a bankrupt or dont they care as long as the mortgage is paid.....

we are dwindling whether to pay 400 b4 friday to get it under 750 but they may still apply for their cost taking it back over 750 and then knowing these ruthless idiots will start a whole new petition.....what are the chances the judge will see hollis briggs as unreasonable and dismiss it and their cost this will be the third date for hearing as h briggs have ajourned twice already

cheers any advice

 

ps just in case we are clearing the bank account thursday lol

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