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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hi,

 

I would presume that they can prove what code was used however as OH half for a code or key he used what he was given eg CODE. sorry a bit confused by the above statement ? what do you mean ?

 

You can either use a key or a code, OH was given a code and so that is what he used, he did not request MY CODE or XX'S code he asked for a key or code and was given the one he used, he was also told if that did not work to come back and SM would have given him the key.

 

 

They released CCTV to me of my other half as proof that i commited one of the allegations. ( They now have confirmed i did no wrong). did they have to release this via sar you filed ? i thought you said that they had released no cctv footage ??

 

Nothing has been released by the SAR yet, they have not complied with it. The CCTV they have released is still shoots of my partner, it was released to me as part of their evidence against me in relation to an allegation.

Also i have not put in a SAR, My partner did as the footage we require shows him and not me.

 

 

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Hi,

 

They could argue, that as you have stated previously in the blog, that other half had reguarly visited your work and helped you in work and the case that you worked there as a manager, he would have been well aware that he could not use the code without a certain level of authorisation, even if supplied by a member of staff, the fact that he asked for it would have broken there rules ?

 

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They could argue, that as you have stated previously in the blog, that other half had reguarly visited your work and helped you in work and the case that you worked there as a manager, he would have been well aware that he could not use the code without a certain level of authorisation, even if supplied by a member of staff, the fact that he asked for it would have broken there rules ?

 

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Fortunetly they couldn't argue that, the code is merely a code to open a door, approx 75 other people/customers have one and there is nothing written in any T & C's stating you cant give it to other people and that other people can't use it. There is nothing written anywhere in the T&C'S about the code in all honesty.

Plus he could have got into the building going through a different unlocked door is his intentions were bad etc. I still feel that the company would need to prove the intentions were bad to justify the allegation. They would not be able to show any bad intentions are there were none.

 

I think i need to point out that they are not claiming he entered without authorisation This was the original claim (email sent saying it was going to be added) which they altered in my dismissal letter and changed it into Breach of Security and Confidentiality.

 

I think this is because he signed in and out etc that is all the authorisation anyone has (customers/vistors and other site staff), they are claiming that i gave him a code to enter the buidling during my suspension.

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Hi,

 

you state that 75 other people have codes, do they have the same code or does everyone have there own specific code ?

 

Surely there must be something written in a contract or in the terms and conditions that state you cannot share a secure access code ?

 

otherwise what would the point of the codes be ?

 

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Hi,

 

you state that 75 other people have codes, do they have the same code or does everyone have there own specific code ?

 

Surely there must be something written in a contract or in the terms and conditions that state you cannot share a secure access code ?

 

otherwise what would the point of the codes be ?

 

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You have fallen for the trap lol, Who said it was a secure access code ? As i have already told you it merely opens a door and allows you into a building, everything else inside is still alarmed and manually locked with a key etc. he was given no alarm code or keys so he could not access anything other than the main entrance reception area.

 

This is why it is not stated in t&c's etc the doors are normally wide open during the day when staff are on site, on this day the door was not open so OH asked for key or code to open it. No attempts to go anywhere at all he merely opened the door, looked into building to see for CCTV signs, when he saw there were none he put the code back into system to close the door.

 

I feel that the important thing is he was only given access to a normally open and public area, while the company claim he used a managers code all codes are the same, they only allow entrance to the buidling, you need other things/codes/keys to actually get anywhere.

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Hi,

 

Fallen for what trap ????

 

Instantly assuming a code is High Security etc, this code is no anything to do with security if its during office hours which the incident was.

 

Did your oh not know that he could not ask for the code ?

 

He could ask for a code, customers/clients/visitors do it all the time as i have already said the code is not giving access to anything that isn't normally open during office hours. If someone else comes to site instead of the person named on our records, they sign in and are given access through the main door, they then should have there own individual keys/codes that whoever sent them would have given them to enbale them to do whatever they are there to do.

 

If it is normally an open and public area does that mean anyone of the street can walk in ?

 

Yes

 

If that is correct what is the point of an access code ?

 

For cusomers/clients that use it out of office hours when the doors are shut.

 

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Hi,

 

You also state that you took photos in the building, did you get written permission to take pictures on a private premises ?

 

Its not private premises lol, and the company dont own the property :)

 

Also as it was to do with non compliance to the DPA i cant see the company making too mant waves about that, PLus of course they do not know what i took pictures of.

 

However yes i did get permission from SM on site, CCTV will prove this and show SM got of out site of camera etc.

 

If you did not, they can use this against you as well .

 

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As its never been mentioned by anyone its unlikely they will suggest it now i would have thought and as i have proof from the ICO that they were commiting a criminal act which they are currently investigating i feel it is not really relevant.

 

Is their any reason you have no posted on any other thread than this ?

 

Soemone that has been through an ET i would have thought you could assist many people.

 

By ignoring the answers to the previous reply i take it you are agreeing that the company will have issues proving their version of events.

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Hi,

 

I have made no other posts as i only joined this website a few months ago and can only handle one post at a time.

 

I would recommend waiting till you see all there evidence then decide what to do then, as all this is guess work as you have no idea what evidence they have

 

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I have made no other posts as i only joined this website a few months ago and can only handle one post at a time.

 

I would recommend waiting till you see all there evidence then decide what to do then, as all this is guess work as you have no idea what evidence they have

 

I know what evidence they have, they have told me. They have had a verbal converstaion with SM and then that was followed up by a witness statement by the same SM

 

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I have a lot of evidence from the company that disproves large parts of their defence and also proves that not all staff are treated the same and that allegation 4 was not addressed correctly (if at all)

 

Im just waiting for the ET to give instructions and i am almost sorted for a CMO if that is the way they wanna go etc, im hoping it is as it proves that the judge see's this as a fairly straight forward case which i feel it is, i have the evidence to disprove approx 50% of the ET3 and once i get the infomation i have requested i should be able to disprove much more.

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hi,

 

what is a cmo ?

 

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Case Management Order im sure you proably had one or a CMD Case Management Discussion usually done over the phone etc ?

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Hi,

 

Im sure it will be a lot clearer once you have all the evidence from the company.

 

Hows the new job going ? hopefully better than your last one . lol

 

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New job is great thanks

 

As i said earlier i feel its going to be a struggle getting some of the evidence as it disproves there version of events and proves OH's. They are not likely to freely give that out now are they. I may have to take the route of showing the judge that i have done everything i legally can to obtain it and they are refusing without reason etc. This should help discredit the company at the very least

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ET is scheduled for March and it seems to be a lot easier than i originally thought, Other sides solicitor says they have loads of people they wanna call as witnesses and the case will take around 4 days.

 

Judge disagrees and has stated that the case should take no longer than 1 day including rememdy (what ever that is).

 

Evidence still has not been released and the company attempted to defend the County Court claim, (They messed up big time and falsly claimed i retracted my request for evidence, once i pointed out that they were lying they quickly back tracked) They have now offered to settle out of court which they have been told once we have evidence we will talk about.

 

Case Management Order is due in 2 weeks time but i have already completed it, will double check it with ACAS tomorrow. Does anyone know whether i just send it to the other side or to the ET as well ?

Also the CMO states that witness statements have to be in 14 days before the hearing, Do i include these on CMO ?

 

ACAS are i believe trying to talk to company to get settlement before case is heard which i guess is there job, they know what i want so who knows about that.

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Hi,

 

when is the cut off date for the company to release there evidence ?

 

are you trying to settle out of court for the et or the seperate county court judgement ?

 

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They are trying to settle out of court for the County Court claim, ET wise they know what i am after and ACAS have confirmed it is very reasonable and that i would probably be entitled to more than that if it goes the distance and i win as i can get additional costs for loss of employment rights and the like.

 

There is no cut off date for them to release the evidence, the have to comply with the CMO (so have 2 weeks to give me a list of what evidence they are going to be using) and then release anything we request withing 7 days of the request. So i am guessing it will be end of this month begining of next before i can get my hands on the evidence unless they release it through the Subject Access Request which they now seem to be going to comply with all be it months late lol.

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Hi,

 

Have you agreed to any amounts for settlement of the county court claim ? have they agreed them ?

 

What was the sar for, what evidence does it specifically relate to ?

 

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OH put in the SAR so he's dealing with it, as far as im aware no figures have been suggested yet, hes said once they comply he will enter talks etc. They have suggested settling before the court case etc OH dont care either way as the company have admitted that the County Court defence is actaully a lie lol.

 

SAR would cover all evidence needed for the ET and a few other bits as SAR covers all infomation the company have about OH so should give us everything we need.

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Hi,

 

Why have you done a sar for the et evidence ? they will surely supply you a copy of everything before you go to the et ?

 

did the company or there solicitors suggest settling out of court,? what was there reason for this ?

 

This will help in the et as it shows they have failed to follow correct procedures.

 

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Why have you done a sar for the et evidence ? they will surely supply you a copy of everything before you go to the et ?

 

I didn't, OH did a S.A.R request as its a legal request that they have to comply with, they wouldn't release the evidence so doing it this way releases everything including all evidence and several other documents that i can use in my defense.

 

did the company or there solicitors suggest settling out of court,? what was there reason for this ?

 

The company, The solicitors are not involved in the County Court case in any way shape or form, which is great as far as im concerned. The company offered to settle as their defense was that they didn't have to comply as OH had agreed to retract the SAR, OH proved this was not the case and company immedialetly offered to settle out of court.

 

This will help in the et as it shows they have failed to follow correct procedures.

 

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I believe that i already have loads of evidence that shows the company didn't follow their own procedure and that they treated staff differently as well. I will be using this evidence against the company if needed however the companies solicitor has suggested we agree on a few issues before the ET to help minimise the time spent in ET. I have said im open to the suggestions and will talk more once i have the CMO etc and know what they are going to use.

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Hi,

 

It sounds like they are trying to back out of it, why would they need to clarify a few issues before the et, if they was so sure they was in the right ?

 

Sounds like you may be looking at an out of court settlement.

 

Have they agreed on a settlement figure ? have you requested a figure ?

 

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Hi,

 

It sounds like they are trying to back out of it, why would they need to clarify a few issues before the et, if they was so sure they was in the right ?

 

That was exactly my feelings, im still not sure though, i will await the CMO from them and go from their.

 

Sounds like you may be looking at an out of court settlement.

 

I do really hope so, it would be a lot less stressful for myself however if needed i will take it all the way

 

Have they agreed on a settlement figure ? have you requested a figure ?

 

Settlement figure for what ? County Court case hasn't been discussed but they have stated they wanna settle without the need of County Court case.

 

Regards

 

ET settlement, i was asked at the appeal meeting what i wanted so the company are well aware of this, the ACAS person has also asked and said it was a fair request and i could probably get more if things went my way at ET. I haven't been asked by the company since appeal meeting and i haven't been asked by their solicitors at all but i think they are well aware of what i am looking for, i will also be producing a Schedule of Loss for the ET in the near future.

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