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    • Thank you for your pointers - much appreciated. dx100uk - Apologies, my request wasn't for super urgent advice and I have limited online access due to my long working hours and caring obligations - the delay in my response doesn't arise in any way from disrespect or ingratitude. I will speak to her at the weekend and see if she will open up a bit more about this, and allow me to submit the subject access request you advise - the original creditor is 118 118 loans and from the letter I saw (which prompted the conversation and the information) the debt collection agency had bought the debt from 118 and were threatening enforcement which is when she has made a payment arrangement with them for an amount of £180 per month. It looks as if she queried matters at the time (so I wonder if I might with the FIO request get access to their investigation file?) - the letter they wrote said "The information that you provided has been carefully considered and reviewed. After all relevant enquiries were made it has been confirmed that there is not enough evidence present to conclusively prove that this application was fraudulent.  However, we have removed the interest as a gesture of goodwill. As a result of the findings, you will be held liable for the capital amount on the loan on the basis of the information found during the investigation and you will be pursued for repayment of the loan agreement executed on 2.11.2022 in accordance with Consumer Credit Act 1974"  The amount at that time was over £3600 in arrears, as no payments had been made on it since inception and I think she only found out about it when a default notice came in paper form. I'm a little reluctant to advise her to just stop paying, and would like to be able to form a view in relation to her position and options before unsetting the applecart - do you think this is reasonable? She is young and inexperienced with these things and getting into this situation has brought about a lot of shame regarding inability to sort things out/stand up for herself, which is one of the reasons I have only found out about this considerably later Thank you once again for your advice - it is very much appreciated.    
    • That's fine - I'm quite happy to attend court if necessary. The question was phrased in such a way that had I declined the 'consideration on the papers' option, I would have had to explain why I didn't think such consideration was appropriate, and since P2G appear to be relying on a single (arguably flawed) issue, I thought it might result in a speedier determination.
    • it was ordered in the retailers store  but your theory isnt relevant anyway, even if it fitted the case... the furniture is unfit for purpose within 30 days so consumer rights act overwrites any need to use 14 days contract law you refer too. dx  
    • Summary of the day from the Times. I wasn't watching for a couple of interesting bits like catching herself out with her own email. Post Office inquiry: Paula Vennells caught out by her own email — watch live ARCHIVE.PH archived 23 May 2024 11:57:02 UTC  
    • Frankly I think you should go to a hearing unless you feel especially nervous . If you have any worries then you should follow our link to find out about a county court familiarisation visit     You shouldn't forget that county Court judgements are very helpful but they are not binding. They are only persuasive.  It is difficult to see you losing but it might be better to be there in order to counter any arguments from the other side
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Well, this afternoon, we had a Bailiff from Bristow & Sutor knocking at our door. Me, like a fool,,,, let him in. He SAT DOWN on MY Settee, without being invited to !!!!

 

Anyway, he gave me a form to fill in with all our personal details, dob, employment etc. We are both recently unemployed. I gave him the form back, he looked at it and put it down.

 

He then goes on to complete a invetory of seized goods, settees, tv etc. etc. I got mad and told him to leave, he refused, so I called the police, while he was there in front of me.

 

He decided that it would be a good idea to levy my car !!!, so he went outside onto the drive to do this, so I locked the door, so he couldnt get back in. He then disappeared after posting me a letter with the inventory attached !!!!.

 

Anyway .................... I have now written to Bristow & Sutor stating that we are unemployed so therefore we are vunerable persons and their Bailiff has breached his authority and we have asked for a FULL report from them or Bailiff as to why he carried on seizing our goods. I have also copied this to our Council and written them a letter to take the case back into their hands...

 

I have also given Bristow & Sutor 5 days (til 5th Aug) to reply with a full report or I will report the Bailiff to the Court with a Form 4 !!!!

 

Ha cant wait..... really excited now.... THANKS CAG xx

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i am engaged with bristow and suitor. see if you can get a copy of the councils terms of engagement with baillifs

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Well surprise surprise........ B & S have ignored me totally.

SO today I have written to them with a copy of the duly completed Form 4 and given them til 14th August 2009 11am to reply satisfactorily or sending From 4 to the Court for their decision......

 

WATCH THIS SPACE !!!! I do not tolerate BULLIES at all..............

 

 

I am still waiting for the Council to send me their terms of engagement with B&S,, suppose that will take forever...... but I might just pop in next week and sit there til I have got them !!!! lol.

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Oh Dear !!! Received a letter from B & S today.... HELP NEEDED NOW PLZ ..

 

 

"BLAH

BLAH

 

We confirm that charge payers who are unemployed are classed as potentially vunerable and in such instance we find out a person is unemployed, we do not return the Liability Orders to the Court. We are Civil Enforcement Agents enforcing Liability Orders for the local government debts and therefor this is not applicable to ourselves "

 

Are they THAT Special ???????

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Oh Dear !!! Received a letter from B & S today.... HELP NEEDED NOW PLZ ..

 

 

"BLAH

BLAH

 

We confirm that charge payers who are unemployed are classed as potentially vunerable and in such instance we find out a person is unemployed, we do not return the Liability Orders to the Court. We are Civil Enforcement Agents enforcing Liability Orders for the local government debts and therefor this is not applicable to ourselves "

 

Are they THAT Special ???????

 

 

They have confirmed that your case is vulnerable and therefore they should be abiding by the National Standards for Enforcment Agents and RETURNING the case back to the COUNCIL....NOT the Court !!

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UPDATE ...

 

I have now paid my Council Tax TO THE COUNCIL. I have ignored the Bailiffs fees totally. I went into the Council and asked how much I owed them and paid them all of it, for the whole year..... I have also sold my house yesterday, so I will be due some back...... and signed off yesterday too !!!

 

Just wait for outcome on Form 4 copy sent to B & S !!!!

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