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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
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    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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how it gone then?? have you contacted them??

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

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hi lisa, yes i called them, spoke with christine and she said someone would call me next week. so fingers crossed and watch this space! thanks again for your help x

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oooohhhh let us know what they say!!

 

and dont forget to make sure you check the interest everyday in the morning so if they ring you have it upto date!! dont want to miss out, even a few pence is better in your pocket! and dont forget to add your dpa/sar £10.00 fee on also!!

 

lisaxx

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

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called again today, i am on christines list of people to call back- i asked if it was a long list and she said that is an understatement. we are obviously keeping them nice and busy!!!

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hope you hear something tomorrow!

 

xx

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

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when i sorted out settlement, i received a letter a few days later outlinging everything. basically saying that i have accepted the money, but it is not them admitting it bla bla bla.

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

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So long as they settle your claim in full, they do not have to accept any liability. However that is the only thing they can lawfully not admit to. If they want to attach any other conditions then refuse.

 

Were there any conditions?

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Fight incompetance, stupidity, greed and unfairness......There's no excuse and no place for it in society, unless they really are! :wink:

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no conditions at all!

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

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still waiting, think i am lower on the list as they like to leave it last minute and there is still another month before my hearing.

 

I have a figure in mind for a settlement but as it takes into consideration the 3 years of missing data it is considerately higher than the amount i have put on court forms. Any thoughts on this? will it work.

 

in the meanwhile if i havent heard from Christine by Wednesday I will call again. will update the thread as soon as i have news. thanks for any help on the above

 

sarah

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Court pending V Barclays and Time Retail

 

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hey you dont know unless you try, though i am pretty sure that they can find out your charges. and the dates, then when they come to you with an offer, ask for the charges and the dates that you dont know about, ask them what figure they are looking at, take their number and go away and do the maths. if they wont give you the details of the charges and dates that you are not aware of, then tell them that you have to take this into account, and you do not want to short change yourself!

 

just roll with it, if it feels right to you and you are happy then go for it, but always push for that bit more, they are probably expecting it anyway, and no matter what the end result will be the same!

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if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

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am going to call tomorrow just getting myself in order. its a school and playschool day tomorrow so 2 kids down, will put the baby to bed then call. Been dreading receiving their call back whilst they are all here, i'm going to need quiet for max concentration. I'm going to make Christine speak to me about it. will definately be following your advice Lisa. Will update as soon as it happens. wish me luck

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Guess what the postman just brought for me? all my missing statements YES! need a day or so to work thru them but its great news, i will know my final claim figure! Well i'd better get started.

 

Very intesting to know that i sent my SAR request on 3rd July and only today have they provided full details. Supposed to be 40 days not 4 and a half months!

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I dont think they understand that if they were wiling to negotiae NOW we would probably accept less than we would at a later date - surely they would want to save themselves some money, think they are gonna need it. Noticed some serious Abbey Ads on t.v

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it would be interesting to see what you thought the amount was and what it actually is??

 

anyway nice one!

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

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The amount isnt as good as i was thinking- however that takes into account the fact i didnt have a clue what charges were on the dates in question and my estimation was based on the current years charges multiplied by the amount of years. it seems i managed my acount a lot better then! still working on the figures tho, trying to eek them out as much as possible! Dont want to short change myself! Can i ask for compensation to be included in my settlement do you think. It has caused untold stress and theres also the default and having my account frozen. What are your thoughts?

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Court pending V Barclays and Time Retail

 

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i wouldnt bother, unless you have been caused to loose your house or something along those lines. and i think that you have to have some sort of proof.

 

bet your gutted about the total? at least the interst will go up everyday!

 

lisaxx

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

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Hi Sarah

 

Have you heard any more from the Abbey? I sent my lba and received an letter offering me a 1/4 of what I'm owed. I have threatened court action and received a letter from them telling me that they can do nothing more for me. Do you have any advice on next stage?

 

hello haliali,

 

abbey have never made me any kind of offer, i wish!

your next stage is to stick to your timetable, start court proceedings. you can either fill an N1 in person at court or use the online service money claim. Read this http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/faqs-please-read-these/31460-step-step-instructions.html it has all the info you need.

Good luck

:)

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Court pending V Barclays and Time Retail

 

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HELP! ok- court bundle seems ok. The problem is with the spreadsheet and figures. It was the first spreadsheet i done and i seem to have used contractual interest at 9.9% and then applied statutory at 8% , i now think that only 1 interest (contractual or statutory) can be applied. Is this right? Also does anyone know , my claim was for a set amount plus interest and to make them produce missing statements- i have now received these missing statements so will it be acceptable to add their worth to my claim amount to go in my court bundle?

Altho i have a few claims on the go and have had one settled, this is new water for me, preparing for court so any help is greatly appreciated.

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Court pending V Barclays and Time Retail

 

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