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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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This hearing Lilly...and i have done £302..you dont think thats enough??

 

Hi all...just an update...

 

I received my court order on fri and this is what it says:

 

On the hearing of an application by the applicant for an order that the statutory demand issued on 10th sept 09 be set aside

 

Upon hearing the applicant in person and upon hearing the respondents solicitor

 

AND UPON READING THE EVIDENCE

 

It is ordered that:

 

1. Respondent do file and serve affidavit evidence in reply by 4.00pm on 26th Jan 2010.

2. Application be ajourned to *******at**** with a time estimate of 2 hours.

3. Costs in the application.

 

Nothing received as yet...will post up if and when anything comes.

 

MJ:)

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If they dont respond Mandy within the DJ orders then the hearing will be vacated and superseded by the new order.

 

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can you suggest what i do with my costs..i lost out on the last lot...i do not intend to to that again!! MJ:D

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thanks vera..

 

im on the home straight now...nearly at an end...lets see weather they cough up anything in the next 7 days!!

 

How you doing with your others??:mad:

 

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can you suggest what i do with my costs..i lost out on the last lot...i do not intend to to that again!! MJ:D

 

 

Bump for the above question please...if the hearing in May is vacated when do i send in costs??

 

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I would submit a wasted costs application after the claim is struck out by the court with a suitable grovelling letter as to how it griefs you to take up court time but etc.

 

The link is here - you will need to amend to suit your case:

http://www.consumerforums.com/resources/templates-library/48-bank-templates/143-wasted-costs-order-

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Hi mandyjayne....I see your having yet another wait to deal with (MAY? :rolleyes:)

 

Am keeping my eyes peeled in the hopes of all this being kicked to the kerb sooner for you and those long overdue costs you have incurred can be finally sorted too!

MDAW x

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Hello all..

 

Well my post has been and nothing arrived from Lowell:D.

 

Will call the court in the morning as they do officially have until 4pm.

 

Still a little confused as to what route to take with costs:confused: should i just wait til tomorrow morning, double check the court have received nothing then send a copy to the court and one to Lowell?? Although the last court order did not mention costs?? Help please

 

MJ:)

 

first court order

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/195656-egg-barclays-help-please-11.html#post2722418

 

last court order

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/195656-egg-barclays-help-please-11.html#post2780887

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Hello all..

 

Well my post has been and nothing arrived from Lowell:D.

 

Will call the court in the morning as they do officially have until 4pm.

 

Still a little confused as to what route to take with costs:confused: should i just wait til tomorrow morning, double check the court have received nothing then send a copy to the court and one to Lowell?? Although the last court order did not mention costs?? Help please

 

MJ:)

 

first court order

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/195656-egg-barclays-help-please-11.html#post2722418

 

last court order

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/195656-egg-barclays-help-please-11.html#post2780887

 

O k your cost have gone in imho i would now settle for that, unless you feel that you have incurred extra costs if so fax them to the court.

 

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Hi Lilly

 

No my costs have not gone in? i am getting confused????:confused:

 

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Hi Lilly

 

No my costs have not gone in? i am getting confused????:confused:

 

mj

then get them in ..............

 

fax them over to the court, As i said the amount i would be looking for contact the court and ensure that they are placed in front of the judge......

 

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Costs For set aside Application Case No xxx

xx Court xxx April 2008

 

Rate Claimed Litigant in Person rate of £9.25 / hour

Travelling Costs HMRC Approved Mileage Rate of 40p / mile

 

1) Time spent identifying and understanding relevant legislation.

Time spent identifying and understanding relevant case law.

Time spent preparing affidavit and skeleton argument.

 

18 hours £166.50

 

2) Time spent communicating with Respondant and swearing affadavit

 

2 hours £ 18.50

 

3) Loss of day’s wages for attending court on xxx April 2008 £ 80.00

 

4) Travelling costs for return journey to court 2 x 20 miles £ 16.00

 

Total £281.00

 

Notes

 

Before undertaking this myself I approached a solicitor to handle this. I was given an estimate of 3 to 6 hours at £170/hour to prepare the Application (£510-£1020) plus extra for attending the court.

 

I respectfully request that the court give consideration to awarding these costs on the indemnity basis or, in the alternative, on the standard basis as I believe, in any case, that they have been proportionately and reasonably incurred and/or are of a proportionate and reasonable amount.

 

In support of this request, I would also like to refer the court’s attention to the authority of the High Court in the case of:-

 

Hammonds (a firm) v Pro-Fit USA Ltd [2007] EWHC 1998 (Ch)

 

In this case, Mr Justice Warren confirmed that it was usual for an indemnity award to be made:-

 

27 So far as disputed debts are concerned, the practice of the court is not to allow the insolvency regime to be used as a method of debt collection where there is a bona fide and substantial dispute as to the debt. Save in exceptional cases, the court will dismiss a petition based on such a debt (usually with an indemnity costs order against the petitioner).

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ok so i was waiting for 4pm today, to see if Lowells sent anything...seeing as they have not.. the hearing set for May will now be vacated.

It was at that hearing i imagined the costs would have been sorted.

 

So, i now just send them in do i? and a copy to Lowell? I have already got them drafted

 

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ok so i was waiting for 4pm today, to see if Lowells sent anything...seeing as they have not.. the hearing set for May will now be vacated.

It was at that hearing i imagined the costs would have been sorted.

 

So, i now just send them in do i? and a copy to Lowell? I have already got them drafted

 

mj

 

Just to the court.............. lowell will know in due course

 

 

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phoned the court this morning...they have received nothing from lowell...but, i was reminded by the miserable woman who answered the phone

"they had until 4 yesterday to get the stuff in...we aint gone thru the post yet so they might have" - how do some people get these jobs!:mad:

 

Anyway...my costs have been sent RD today with a covering letter, lets see what happens next.

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

update....

 

letter and court order received today as follows:

 

On the hearing of an application by the Applicant for an order that the SD issued on 10th sep be set aside

 

upon reading the Applicants letter

AND UPON READING THE EVIDENCE and upon the DJ directing that this application be brought forward

 

IT IS ORDERED THAT

1. The application to set aside the SD listed for 4th may be vacated.

 

2.The application to set aside the SD be listed for hearing on tuesday 13th april time of 30 mins.

 

Well back we go:mad:

 

MJ:)

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Incredible Mandy!

 

Lowells just prat about & get another bite at the cherry. :mad::mad:

Would you have been afforded the same leniency? Answer in words of 2 x letters!!

 

Of course, it could have been relisted so the DJ can give Lowells a piece of his mind but this is the real world...

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Hi FG

 

yes my thoughts exactly...im getting a little frustrated with this, going on and on:mad::mad:

 

Well anyone have any ideas what will happen at this hearing...what if Lowell turn up?? They have ignored 2 court orders so they cannot possibly be given another chance....or CAN they:( mind you i did request my costs and include them in the letter i sent, so maybe we need a hearing for that?? any ideas?

 

MJ

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Unfortunately, don't think there is not a lot you can do mandy; as it's a set aside hearing, you're at the mercy of the court in respect of this order. Let's just hope the costs application will focus the court/Lowell's minds & you will get the result you want from the hearing in April.

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Well i am back to court on tuesday! Hopefully it goes in my favour as the last court order Lowlife ignored was an "unless" order.

 

I will be armed with costs!;)

 

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Its like they are a cat with 9 lives the chances they have had to respond to things! I hope you give them grief next Tuesday for non compliance & wasting yours & the judges time continually. I hope they get what they deserve & will be rooting for you....MDAW x

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