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    • pdf's merged and properly named. thread title updated. word fine replaced by charge in post one....they are not fines mere speculative invoices. just type no need to keep hitting quote.   dx  
    • Nice work dx, much what I thought and glad to have it confirmed by the expert. Radio silence remains my game plan, I have been resident in Scotland since birth and although I had moved a couple of years prior to defaulting, all addresses were updated and I am confident all begging letters are coming to my current home address. I appreciate the info that they probably wouldn't get a claim in by Aug anyway - I think I'll hunt out my big box of badness in the next few days just to see if I can find any default notice letters so I can pin down some dates to satisfy my semi-OCD. Much obliged, and unlike some others i will look to update in the future as I certainly intend to send them the SB letter as I like to pull the chains of these types of cretins! Of course i'll be back to confirm the correct procedure if I get any "proper" legal letters other than the usual Overdales toilet paper type of scare tactic.  
    • statute barring in Scotland is 5yrs from last payment/use date or date of default Notice + 14 days, whichever is the later. dont confuse that with the 6yrs debts show on credit files (DN's 6th bday regardless to payment or not). they'd never get a claim raised by august in 99% of cases . as long all these debts were taken out whilst resident in scotland and you have not moved since taking them out but failed to inform the original creditor before the debt sale....... then stay radio silent until sb date is reached. then if you wish send our scottish sb letter. just remember unlike E&W in scotland debts are extinguished, dead , gone , parrot. once SB'd dx  
    • Hi all, Love this site and it's no nonsense advice, have dipped in and out of the consumer forums over the years, mostly to assure myself that what I was doing was the right thing when dealing with various businesses (almost 100% success rate, thanks in part to reading and more reading here.). Anyway, the time is almost approaching where I might need to ask for some specific help and I have a couple of queries that I can't see definitively answered. Due to financial mismanagement and severe anxiety issues I stopped paying all unsecured debt in December 2018 (one slipped to the first week in Jan 2019 when the last payment was made having rechecked my bank statement from that period - all my unsecured debt direct debits were cancelled in early Jan 2019). This has left half a dozen debts;  a couple of credit cards, a bank loan, Shop Direct and some Hitachi Finance stuff having been sold on and passing the rounds through the usual suspects, Lowells, Link, PRA Group, others related to them, and then back to them again. I have somehow successfully managed to maintain radio silence and avoided anything more worrying than their begging letters.  I have blocked their phone calls and texts, bumped all emails to the spambox and had a chuckle at their desperate letters.  I've never had anybody at the door.  I have been at the same address since before I defaulted and all correspondence comes to my current home address.  I have NEVER contacted them or admitted any debt. In anticipation of them perhaps ramping up action at the last minute I've had a look at my credit report on Credit Karma (rec'd from this very place) and I see that the default dates on these range from May 2019 to November 2019. Also in preperation I've been reading, reading and reading lots here as advised. Obviously being in Scotland there are a lot fewer posts relating to these matters and it's always quite annoying when OP's do not follow up with any outcome on their cases - how rude! This has also left me a bit confused of when I am able to finally breathe easy (although cancelling all the direct debits in Jan 2019 was the biggest sigh of relief as I knew it was all going to be unmanageable and, well, default one, default all.). I've been reading that defaults should be filed 3-6 months after the missed payment but one of my larger debts was defaulted on 27th August 2019 when the last payment I made was 10th December 2018, meaning the first missed payment was 10th Jan 2019.   My query for now is - when should I infer that these debts are prescribed?  From when the payment was missed, or taking the default date plus 5 years from the credit report? The three I have with the May date are moot anyway as either way they are gone  - some letters from Lowell offering me 90% off to settle is what got me thinking these must have been near SB status, however I have one big 10k+ with a July date and another 10k+ at the end of August I am feeling a bit anxious again, even though I know there is nothing to worry about with the begging letters.  Reading the various forums I am not sure why the OC's didn't take action against me when I read time and again the surprise that other posters haven't already been taken to court for lesser amounts - I'm also surprised I've avoided any action this long as there are plenty in this forum and sub forum who are whisked off to the court by the beggers minions after only a year or so after defaulting.  There are no CCJ/decrees listed on my credit report and I have not received any such judgements against me.  I still just regularly receive the begging emails to the spambox, the blocked phone calls and the letters from the they. I'm also reading that there is no need in Scotland to send an LBC so what should I be looking out for to know that the time has come to engage with CCA requests etc? I'm afraid in a fit I threw a lot of the paperwork out but I have a box of stuff I'm going to go through which may have the original letters from the OC's. Thanks in advance for any advice.  
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Hi all,

Sent off CCA requests to creditors and have recieved just one reply so far from Barclaycard. This used to be a Morgan Stanley card who went to Goldfish and now its Barclaycard. I have seen a couple of threads from people in the same boat but most just seem to end with no outcome although I have seen one that won. I would love to hear from any one who is further down the line with Morgan Stanley/Barclaycard.

 

I cant scan the letter unfortunatley just yet ( hubby away and I am useless with techy stuff ) But It says

 

Ref section 78 of the consumer Credit act 1974

 

I write further to your letter and enclosed £1 fee requesting a copy of your executed agreement for the above account.

The information we must provide to you under the terms of section 78 is prescribed by the consumer credit act 1974 and by the consumer credit ( cancellation notices and copies of documents ) regulations 1983.

Under section 78 we must supply you with a copy of your executed agreement and a statement of accoutn which is practicable to refer.

Below is a statement of the account

 

The credit card limit on your account *******

The balance on your account today *******

The next minimum payment of ***** is due on *****

 

Please note a copy of you current Barclaycard credit agreement will be sent under seperate cover.

You will be recieving your next statement shortly which wil provide you with full details of your account.

 

This completes our obligation to you under section 78 of the consumer credit act

 

And thats the letter I recieved! Shall I sent account in dispute letter or wait till i recieve the terms and conditions? Also we owe £5000 on this card which I know is a lot, I guess this will make Barclaycard more determined to fight us all the way?

 

This is a great site, I love reading the threads, you al cheer me up so much!

Thanks for any help, it will be greatly appreciated I promise :)

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This completes our obligation to you under section 78 of the consumer credit act

Not until you receive everything it doesn't. Obviously it's up to you but you are entitled to send the 'in dispute' letter because they have not fullfilled their obligations.

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Thank you for your reply cerberusalert, but I am still rather confused where they have wrote about the cancellation notices and copies of documents regulations 1983.:-|

I have been trying to read some stuff on this but I am afraid it is going right over my head:)

 

This is the part that confuses me?

However, credit card companies usually send a copy of the application form (often without a signature) and a copy of current Terms and Conditions, which fully complies with the 1983 regulations.

 

Where it says FULLY COMPLIES

 

Does this mean they have done what is asked or am I barking up the wrong tree?

 

Sorry but with all this leagal jargon I am getting myself all confused.

Any help from anyone much appreciated. :)

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If you have asked for a copy of your credit agreement and they supply an application form without the prescribed terms within the four corners of the document they have not complied with CCA 1983 because they have not provided an enforceable agreement.

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