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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. 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In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
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Sleeping Dog you must be made of hard stuff - then again they say they only rang me 4 times - liars. Then again I'm the one with the smile on my face at the moment. Waiting for their response.

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Hi FG & DG , I have been on the DCA merry go round for so long now that all the threats no longer worry me. My credit history is now shot ,so they can put what they want on my CRA file. I have been in court so often that I now enjoy it especially if I am able to claim costs, and even if I lose I laugh at the fact I will be long dead before the debts are fully paid off.

I used to be terrified of the phone ringing before I found this site and could not see any light at the end of the tunnel, now due to everyone on this site especially the site team I have been able to start rebuilding my life and not worry about the constant threats from DCAs, long live CAG.

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Hi FG & DG , I have been on the DCA merry go round for so long now that all the threats no longer worry me. My credit history is now shot ,so they can put what they want on my CRA file. I have been in court so often that I now enjoy it especially if I am able to claim costs, and even if I lose I laugh at the fact I will be long dead before the debts are fully paid off.

I used to be terrified of the phone ringing before I found this site and could not see any light at the end of the tunnel, now due to everyone on this site especially the site team I have been able to start rebuilding my life and not worry about the constant threats from DCAs, long live CAG.

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Well done everybody concerned :) Subbing with interest! GE Money/Carcraft sold my loan to Link:mad:

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Just a thought everyone the General Form of Judgment or Order from the Court says must make applications to set aside, varied or stayed within 7 days guess the 7 days are up now and past and not heard from the plonkers so I reckon I should hear something in the next few days from the court is that right?

GE only have 8 days left and their 40 are up I have a feeling I'm not going to get anything from them.

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If the 7 days have passed since the order DG, & the court have not recieved anything from the other side, it should be struck out automatically as that is what the order says.

 

However courts are not always prompt in doing this so I suggest you phone them, point out the 7 days has elapsed, check that they haven't received anything from the claimant & ask that it be put before a judge asap for a strike out order. You should then get confirmation of this - case over! :D

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Great advice from Foolishgirl....give the court a call, and ask if it can be put in front of a judge to throw out, if they have heard nothing you could request a strikeout....as for the costs aspects, I'm not sure of the implications of a wasted costs order go with regard to 'unless' orders by the court, you may have to submit in writing these might help you - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/134001-suggested-letter-where-claimant.html and http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/136843-capquest-county-court-claim.html

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Hi all

 

Just rang the courts - they haven't heard a thing from Link so they have said it will stay as a strikeout - ONE FOR EVERYONE WITHOUT WHOSE ADVICE I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN CLOBBERED.

Thanks to all.

I'll now get more paperwork together (I'll give GE Money the other few days to supply me with the information) then I'll be back needing help regarding claiming interest etc., from them so we shall have some fun no doubt about it.

I suppose Link will sell this back or to some other monkey to try the same. I'm not worried about them now so bring em on.

All I need now is job offer to make my date complete.

ONCE AGAIN THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS HELPED ME THROUGH THIS.

 

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.as for the costs aspects, I'm not sure of the implications of a wasted costs order go with regard to 'unless' orders by the court, you may have to submit in writing these might help you - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/134001-suggested-letter-where-claimant.html and http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/136843-capquest-county-court-claim.html

 

Just rang the courts - they haven't heard a thing from Link so they have said it will stay as a strikeout - ONE FOR EVERYONE WITHOUT WHOSE ADVICE I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN CLOBBERED.

 

All I need now is job offer to make my date complete.

ONCE AGAIN THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS HELPED ME THROUGH THIS.

 

36_9_1.gif Excellent news DG!!

 

You should def. go for wasted costs order as 42man suggests if it is permitted - make the monkeys pay in lost bananas.

I'm almost sure it is allowed but I've never used it with one. Suggest you ask TLD (PM him) if it's permissible with an unless order. It's really easy to apply for them & the worst they can say is 'no'.

 

Hope there's a job in the pipeline...FG

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Just got my statements from GE Money letter dated 16th taken 8 days to get here. Not got record of them all so they say.

Must be charges/interest I can claim off them eg how can you get

interest charge

deferred interest

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Just got letter and statements from GE Money - quick glance shows

Interest charge

Deferred Interest

Interest Charge

Interest Charge

Interest Charge

Account cover @ 1.50 per 100

all the above in just one month

Wonder what else I'll find when I really look through them.

Listed month in 2003, 4 months in 2004, 3 months in 2005, 4 months in 2006, 6 months in 2007, 1 months (Dec) in 2008 (now thats odd isn't it dont they know they were supposed to have sold it by then.) However they have been able to itemise what the card was used for during those months, how strange.

Amazing in the letter they actually state this is due to system issues and the data is not available. I appreciate this does not fully meet with yur requirements and apologise (yest apologise) for any inconvenience this may cause. This will be taken into consideration when making any calculations for a refund where applicable.

So if I add up what I've spent, add up all the interest they were charging, add the account cover up, any late fees per month - take away what was spent, what I'd paid them - bet the interest etc., is more than I've spent.

I assume thats basically the way to work it out.

Oddly enough the only mention of sold debt is 08 (this has been typed in the body of the letter) where it says payment received thank you next it says sold acct. rvs txn but doesn't say it's been passed to anyone.

Will come back to you when I've done my homework. Unless anyone can tell me how to work it out differently.

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An item marked 'interest' is not an unlawful charge DG. It's the items marked 'late payment' or 'overlimit' etc that are reclaimable but sounds as though you may have quite a claim to calculate ;)

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36_9_1.gif Excellent news DG!!

 

You should def. go for wasted costs order as 42man suggests if it is permitted - make the monkeys pay in lost bananas.

I'm almost sure it is allowed but I've never used it with one. Suggest you ask TLD (PM him) if it's permissible with an unless order. It's really easy to apply for them & the worst they can say is 'no'.

 

Hope there's a job in the pipeline...FG

 

I don't know the score for the best approach to a wasted costs application hopefully somebody who does can pitch in.

 

 

Don't want to sound vindictive but should Diamondgirl not now be putting the boot fairly and firmly into Link Financial with a Section 10 Cease and desist or similar? Would hate to see the scumballs in a position to sell the account on to another pond feeder and the process start all over again.

You have the right to food money.

If you don't mind a little investigation, humiliation, and if you cross your fingers rehabilitation..............

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Good idea on the section 10 notification TLD. Do you need help with it DG?

 

Re. the wasted costs, unless anybody comes up with the definitive answer, I would be tempted to submit it anyway. The worst the court can do is a refusal & DG wouldn't have lost anything ( & may even gain ;))

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An item marked 'interest' is not an unlawful charge DG. It's the items marked 'late payment' or 'overlimit' etc that are reclaimable but sounds as though you may have quite a claim to calculate ;)

 

I'm still going through the statements although GE admit they don't have them all it's looking like most charges have come as I went on the DMP.

DG:)

 

FG yes I will need help with the Section 10 and I'll go for the monkeys even if I'm told no chance it will help everyone in the long run if we have a go.

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And the advice/templateson applying for 'wasted costs' is here DG:

http://www.consumerforums.com/resources/templates-library/48-bank-templates/143-wasted-costs-order-.html

 

Submit this to the court ASAP.

 

Don't forget you can charge for your time spent in researching, writing letters etc. as well as your tangible expenses like postage, photocopying etc. If you don't have an hourly rate at the moment, use the LIP's rate (think it's currently £9.50/hr). As long as your account doesn't exceed 2/3 that of a what a lawyer would charge, it's permitted - as long as the DJ agrees!

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OK briefly amended S10 as follows

 

Legal notice under the Data Protection Act 1980

 

 

To. The Data controller/Compliance Manager

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

Please be advised that this is a formal notice issued under Section 10 of the Data Protection Act 1980 I demand that you cease processing of my Data by any means whether written or electronically,with third party individuals and organisations. In addition to processing, this also means passing, ammending, sharing and management in any form of my Data in whatsoever filing, both manually or electronically.

 

In compliance with the Information Commissioners guidance I give you 14 days to comply with this request.

 

The purpose of this request is that I am of the understanding that your continual processing/controlling of my data will cause distress harm and damage.

 

Specifically because;

 

1. My credit worthiness is being or has been damaged by your actions as a result of your entries to my credit files.

 

2. That the adverse data you continue to process, manage and pass on to third parties impedes my ability to apply for credit, mortgages or other financial services.

 

3. That as a data controller/compliance officer you have a responsibility under the Data protection act to observe all principles set out therein within the act.

 

I expect an acknowledgement of your intentions to comply and if you do not agree, your reasons for being unable or unwilling to do so. I will give you 14 days to forward this to me in writing.

 

Under the Data Protection Act, a County Court has the powers to order compliance of any breaches it sees fit, together with compensation at the discretion of the court.

 

If you fail to comply, or give just and reasonable reasons as to why you will not comply, I will consider making an application to my local Court on notice to force compliance together with costs and compensation.

 

Yours faithfully

 

Anything else you think I should add please feel free to do so otherwise I'll post this off next Tuesday SP of course.

 

They have been quiet since the judge struck it out probably looking for some other idiots to take it on.

 

I'll go check out claiming my charges now.

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And the advice/templateson applying for 'wasted costs' is here DG:

http://www.consumerforums.com/resources/templates-library/48-bank-templates/143-wasted-costs-order-.html

 

Submit this to the court ASAP.

 

Don't forget you can charge for your time spent in researching, writing letters etc. as well as your tangible expenses like postage, photocopying etc. If you don't have an hourly rate at the moment, use the LIP's rate (think it's currently £9.50/hr). As long as your account doesn't exceed 2/3 that of a what a lawyer would charge, it's permitted - as long as the DJ agrees!

 

Thanks for that FG.

 

Ok just had a look at it, firstly as I've not received any letter I need to leave that out, yes?

Charges yes time, postage etc., fine

 

Now do I need to do this with a covering letter to the court or not?

Do I send a copy to the plonkers?

Hourly rate I think should be at least quadruple just to put pressure on them (I know, I know I can't charge that much ha ha)

 

Yours and everyone else help if very much appreciated.

 

I'm quite happy to send this off I'll see if the very very nice judge who struck it out will go in favour of me again.

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Thanks for that FG.

 

Ok just had a look at it, firstly as I've not received any letter I need to leave that out, yes?

Charges yes time, postage etc., fine

 

Now do I need to do this with a covering letter to the court or not?

Do I send a copy to the plonkers?

Hourly rate I think should be at least quadruple just to put pressure on them (I know, I know I can't charge that much ha ha)

 

Yours and everyone else help if very much appreciated.

 

I'm quite happy to send this off I'll see if the very very nice judge who struck it out will go in favour of me again.

DG;)

 

A solicitor would charge you over £100 per hour ;)

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I know but I don't think that I can put an hourly rate for all of us. Don't think that I would get away with that, do you!

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Now do I need to do this with a covering letter to the court or not?

 

Yes, you do & suitably grovelling eg. I apologise for taking up the valuable time & resources of the court but as I have been put to considerable trouble & expense by the claimant to defend a seemingly spurious & vexatious claim, I would ask the court to consider the enclosed application in recompense for my expenses in defending this claim. It needs wording better but you get the drift? (Sorry, not thinking straight today)

 

Do I send a copy to the plonkers?

 

No, they'll get told soon enough by the court if they are ordered to pay up.

Hourly rate I think should be at least quadruple just to put pressure on them (I know, I know I can't charge that much ha ha)

 

Tempting though it is, be careful, you don't want to be seen to be greedy (you stand more chance of getting the costs ;)) plus you might have to justify your hourly rate.

 

 

I'll see if the very very nice judge who struck it out will go in favour of me again.

 

Might not be the same one that deals with the application

 

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Thanks for that, I will post my grovelling letter up before I send it needs a bit of thought.

Costs I am working on it.

Have a nice bank holiday folks.

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