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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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This is my first posting. I have been through the stages written to Barclays and been offered less than half back, so have now gone down the small claims court route. Saturday was the last day then I could apply for a judgement, but I have received a letter confirming they are going to defend the claim, Is this normal for Barclays?

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To be honest i wouldn't worry to much about that. This happens a lot through various banks etc. The likelihood is, it will never make it to court. Read through lots of threads. There are a few in similar situations as yourself.

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Been off the site for a while as thing between me and barclays had stopped.

Here's a quick run down.

9th March 2006 - Requested Statements

4th April 2006 - 1st letter to Barclays asking to refund charges

26th April 2006 - 2nd letter to barclays

23rd May 2006 - Barclays offered less than half as gesture of goodwill

25th May 2006 - Rejected barclays offer

June 2006 - stared small claim route via courts

21st July - Barclays defended claim after extension of 14 days

2nd August 2006 - Returned allocation Questionnaire, asking for standard disclosure to end this rapidly rather than clog up courts. Sent copy to Barclays and with a letter asking them to settle rather than go to court, but letting them know i was prepared to go all the way if need be.

 

 

Then it all went quite - I heard nothig from Barclays or the court. But today I get a letter from the court headed " General form of Judgment or Order" that reads

 

Before DISTRICT JUDGE JACEY sitting at lambeth County Court (then full address).

 

Upon the courts own initiative without a hearing.

 

IT IS ORDEREDTHAT

 

1. This matter be transferred to the London Mercantile Court (ST DUnstans House) forthwith.

 

Date 25th August 2006

 

 

What does this mean ?????

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It means that the judge won't allow the case on the small claims track. How much is your claim?

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Liz ....couple of questions.

 

Is this a current or Business account ?

 

Are you based in the London area ?

 

How much is the claim for ?

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Unfortunately I have been out of the loop for a few weeks, but certainly it seems odd for a personal case to be transferred to the MC. The only thought is that the judge is trying to force the issue into a court that can set a precedent.

 

I would expect a settlement to be made, but this may delay things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This happened to a few cases a couple of months ago. It seems that the judge wants to do it in the mercantile court so that they can settle the issue of unlawful charges once and for all. As I recall, it caused a bit of a flap at the time. My guess is that all this will achieve is that Barclays will settle pronto. The last thing in the world which they want is some sort of show trial focussing on their unlawful charges!

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Believe me, Barclays will be in a much bigger flap over it than you!

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Thank you all your replies.

 

Its a personal case

The claim is for £1680.oo, so should be covered under small claims.

I am in London, originally it was allocated to Lambeth

 

Hopefully Barclays will now pay up, if not I will just have to go to court, if that day arrives hopefully a number of you will kindly turn up as well to give me support.

 

I'll keep you all updated

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Don't worry, a few of us wouldn't miss it for the world!

 

If you have a search for "mercantile", you will find a thread referring to Elliott. These were the first ones who got transferred to Mercantile. Have a read of the thread (quite a long one, it cause a bit of a stir), hopefully, it will help put your mind at rest. ;-)

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LOL...I don't think the court will be big enough to cope with the demand for seats!!

 

Thank you all your replies.

 

Its a personal case

The claim is for £1680.oo, so should be covered under small claims.

I am in London, originally it was allocated to Lambeth

 

Hopefully Barclays will now pay up, if not I will just have to go to court, if that day arrives hopefully a number of you will kindly turn up as well to give me support.

 

I'll keep you all updated

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If they held the case at Wembley stadium there would still be a queue to get in !:)

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Thanks Bookworm, I have read up on the Elliot case and it seems that the Daily mail are monitoring and reporting on Bank Charges.

 

When I get a firm court date I may let them know(Daily Mail) to get some publicity for the cause, what do you think?

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Liz

 

Well i am not sure whether i hope you go or hope you dont, having just submitted a claim that is fast track it would be nice if there was case law establsihed the kicked all the banks arguments into touch without me havign to think too hard about such matters.

 

Anyway heres hoping they do what you want and that its settled.

 

Glenn

 

PS ill come if it does go, as long as it doesnt clash with any 'dates' i might have coming up!!

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If they held the case at Wembley stadium there would still be a queue to get in !:)

 

I think that they would have no problem filling the stadium ;) maybe they should look at doing what they do over in america and actually put these cases on the Tv live if they ever went that far :D

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There has been no request from Liz up to now.

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