Turned down for an interview due to having the wrong birth certificate!?

[tanglewood01]

Hi

 

I'm asking for help on behalf of a friend.

 

She is a UK Citizen, born in the UK and always lived in the UK and has a standard 6"x6.5" birth certificate. She is about my age and I have the same type of birth certificate.

 

She applied for a job with a local authority but she was turned down and told her birth certificate was "obsolete" and insisted that she should obtain an A4 birth certificate.

 

This sounds crazy, has anyone come across this before?

 

Thank you in advance, CJ.

[PGH7447]

Not me, sounds like some jobs worth with nothing better to do,

 

O' its a local authority I was right it is a jobs worth:D

[elche]

Look at page 27 on the following link:

 

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/preventingillegalworking/currentguidanceandcodes/comprehensiveguidancefeb08.pdf?view=Binary

 

The Home Office guidance merely states 'full birth certificate'.

 

Sounds to me like the LA could be interpreting the legislation incorrectly? Point this out to them and they may concede the birth cert you have provided is ok?

 

Or of course has she got any other ID in list A such as a passport? Which should negate the need for the birth cert at all.

 

Nice to know my taxes are being well used as usual!

[patdavies]

A document 6" x 6,5" is not a full birth certificate - it is known as a short birth certificate.

[PGH7447]

But it is still a birth certificate and is a legal document regardless of the size.

[Lula]

that is as may be but the full birth certificate holds more information and it is this information that is required, they are easy to obtain and cost £7.

[Lula]

forgot to add, that you can ring or write to the register office that registered your birth and ask for a copy, or failing that you can order it online but that can take a month because it comes from a different place altogether

 

 

(ok, shall I take my family historians anorak off now )

[tanglewood01]

Thank you all for your replies

 

I have passed on your advice and suggested she joins the forum for future reference!

 

I think particularly that the argument about using a passport should deal with the issue and the home office guidance is much appreciated.

 

CJ.

[Lula]

Well it might not do, if the job was involving some sort of security clearance them they are going to need the details as detailed on the full birth certificate, plus a few bits extra., especially if you are required to sign the official secrets act

[zazen.warrior]

When I applied for a job recently I was told they wanted to see my original full birth cetificate (which fortunately I have filed away) and that the interview would not go ahead without it.

 

The short form one would not do apparently, when I enquired at the job centre they said a passport alone is sufficient.

 

This does need to be standardised somehow, I am seeking work at the moment and I travel to interviews armed with full birth certificate, valid passport, medical card and end off year tax statement. I have been asked for all of these at interviews, whenever I am asked for something new I add it to my bundle for next time - it's ridiculous!!

Edited October 17, 2008 by zazen.warrior

[Donk28]

Hi Guys,

 

Before any employer seeks to engage an employee they must validate their eligibility to work in the UK. The minimum required to satisfy the legistlation is either: -

 

A: A Full UK Passport

 

or

 

B: Full birth certificate (A4 one that has your parents names on)

and proof of national insurance number which can be

- NI Card

- P45

- P60

 

Without these, employers leave themselves open to both corperate and personal prosecution.

 

As a recruiter, I come across 100's of people every year who are seeking to either obtain work using a false name, or when inelligble to work in the UK, so as annoying as it is, I do have some sympathy with the jobsworth's who can actually end up in prison if they don't follow this process.

 

Hope this helps

[Weird Al Yankovic]

Hi Guys,

 

Before any employer seeks to engage an employee they must validate their eligibility to work in the UK. The minimum required to satisfy the legistlation is either: -

 

A: A Full UK Passport

 

or

 

B: Full birth certificate (A4 one that has your parents names on)

and proof of national insurance number which can be

- NI Card

- P45

- P60

 

Without these, employers leave themselves open to both corperate and personal prosecution.

 

As a recruiter, I come across 100's of people every year who are seeking to either obtain work using a false name, or when inelligble to work in the UK, so as annoying as it is, I do have some sympathy with the jobsworth's who can actually end up in prison if they don't follow this process.

 

Hope this helps

 

As a recruiter do you not ever just use common sense?

 

And what legislation do you refer to that a UK national must provide what you point out to work in the UK?

 

Read the initial post again-she is a UK national.