Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Yeah I figured, unlikely I'll need credit anyway mortgage all paid off etc so I'll take that on the chin and learn from the experience. Probably would've beaten that too had I remembered the protocol, first time ever going through the process though sob it wasn't familiar to me  Oh well  
    • This is my slightly amended WS taking on board your previous comments, any suggestions for amendments would be most appreciated.  Thank you for you time.   1.        I am the Defendant in this matter. 2.        The facts in this statement come from my personal knowledge. 3.        I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 4.        The alleged Letter of Claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address. 5.        The Judgement debt was not familiar to me so I began investigations to ascertain what the debt related to and how such a figure had been equated in any event. 6.        I made immediate contact with the Court, the Claimant Solicitors and the Claimants thereafter, asking them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.  7.        I sent a Data Subject access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided – See appendix 1 which details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclaycard as well as copies of correspondence between us. 8.        I do not admit to entering an agreement with Barclaycard in 2000. 9.       The claimant has failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis and therefore this claim should be automatically struck out.  10.    The claimants have failed to disclose a true executed copy of the original agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim. They are not entitled to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974 12.   The reconstituted standard Barclaycard agreement that the claimant has included in the court bundle does not satisfy any CCA request and so the claimant is and remains in default of my CCA request and therefore unable to enforce the alleged agreement. 13.  The claimants have failed to provide proof the assignment, such as a deed of assignment. 14.  The claimant has failed to provide a statement of account setting out how the alleged debt accrued under that agreement 15.   Despite numerous requests to the claimant, I have still not seen any evidence, such as an original agreement or deed of assignment, that substantiates the claimant’s assertion that I owe the debt to the claimant, nor evidence of how the debt was accrued. 16.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • A set aside application costs £275 which is more than the judgement so not worth it. Not that they would grant a set aside anyway.  Set asides are granted, for example, to people who moved and didn't get the court papers, so have a genuine reason for not defending.  Forgetting doesn't count. Your only choices are to pay up within 30 days, or defy the court and not pay.  If the latter, we've never seen a PPC enforce judgement for a single ticket, ever, you would get away without paying - but you would have a CCJ and a knackered credit file for six years.
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

jellybabe vs Argos (Hubby's account)


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 4745 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

oh yes, i have....several times...ie OC, several DCA's...and all they came back with is an application form (so i've been told on here).

 

No t&c's from time of opening, just the new ones at that time.

 

All i want now is really to get this settled and get them off my back.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Replies 146
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

I just got the letter out. They sent it to me after i told them that i am in the middle of reclaiming charges from Argos. Stupidly, i never followed up with this to the end.

 

Anyway, this was the wording in their letter:

 

We note that you have raised a dispute with regards to charges apllied to your account. Our view is that whilst you may be partially successful in this argument it is certainly not the case that all charges levied are irrecoverable.

 

In an attempt to bring this matter to a conclusion we confirm that on a without prejudice basis we will accept **** in full and final settlement providing that payment is received within 28 days of the date of this letter.

 

If you choose not to accept this compromise our instructions are to take enforcement action against you without further notice.

 

----That was the first offer letter i received of them, that was in Sept 2010----

 

A few days ago i received another letter extending this offer for a further 14 days

Link to post
Share on other sites

they'll go nowhere near court for that amount.

 

pers i'd ignore them totally

and get reclaiming

 

you dont need to go to court but you need to do it properly

 

you've got all the statements i assume

 

off you go.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

yep

 

its obv they'll not do court with this

 

time to hit back.

 

do some reading up and away you go

 

you've done this before i see so should be simple.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

thanks dx,

 

yh, i've done it before, but that was a while ago, those B******s DCA's took my whole self confidence away over the last 2 or so years (making it worse when my hubby lost his job last year and my Dad passed away) , so i think i just chickened out....

 

All i was doing is sending empty threats of Court Action , which made me look totally incompetent to Argos i think...

Link to post
Share on other sites

quick question please.....

 

I have just dug my old spreadie out where i put all the Charges in at that time. The interest i was claiming was 27.9%.

 

Now, do i let that interest keep going on, or will i have to stop the calculations from when it got passed on to the DCA's? I mean at the moment, with the spreadie calculation up to today, the interest seems pretty high, about double the amount in charges? does that sound right??

 

My last letter to Argos was in September last year, where i'd sent them a revised request for repayment of charges letter with a revised Spreadie......i'm now realising i need to hurry up, as a lot of the charges will be falling off and have already fallen off now.-----Angry with myself-----

 

Maybe it would be easier and less complicated if i#d claim without the interest, but i would be losing a lot of money then

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey everyone......i'm back, rather disappointed with myself and quite ashamed.....as i still haven't managed to pursue this to the end :(

 

I have even thought about doing a f&f offer to them, well Bryan Carter, as he is the one pursuing me now.

 

But am back on track after having some advise from dx on my other threat.

 

Now i have questions :)

 

My spreadie obviously is still calculating interest at the rate of 27.9% up until today. Now the interest on the spreadie seems pretty high, about double the amount of charges claimed? Does that sound right? I have already lost a few charges on there, due to the 6 Year limit, so i would like to carry on with this pretty quickly now.

 

As the account is with Bryan Carter now, do i stop the interest on the spreadie, as they are not adding any more interest to the account now? But my feeling says, no, i leave that running?

 

I am preparing right now a revised initial letter to Argos again, giving them 7 days, before i finally send my LBA out! I am determined to pull through this time!

Argos, btw haven't even bothered replying to my initial letter (which was sent in Sept 2010) until 3rd Feb 2011. And they made me a measly offer. They are not refunding any charges at £12 and the higher ones they only refund the amount over £12....so they say.....heard that one before.

 

Well, looks like this WILL end up in Court.....

Edited by jellybabe
added to it
Link to post
Share on other sites

threads merged

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

ok,

i had another look at my spreadsheet and am not quite sure about the interest bit. So i will send them a new initial letter just for the charges without interest added, and will just later on at court stage add the 8% on top.

It'll keep it simple for me to understand, in case i do end up in court having to argue my case...you never know!

And they may also be more inclined of settling with me..it'll almost clear the balance on the account.

I will also add the bit that i'm requesting the default reemoved from the CRA's i think.

 

Will get this letter typed today or tomorrow to send of asap....will also send another letter to Bryan Carter putting them on notice that he is wrong in pursuing a still disputed account!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Could someone please advise if it sounds right that the interest on my speadsheet is just under double the amount of the charges? It is calculated at 27.9% and the first charge is just over the 6 Year mark?

I really want to get this lba sorted and would appreciate some quick advise.

 

Thanks all,

jellybabe x

Link to post
Share on other sites

yes ofcourse it will

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Jellybabe

 

I am now about to start my own battle with Fredricksons in respect to an Argos card. Am following with interest. I will SAR Argos on Thursday. Best of luck. Do you mind if I ask what year or approx you took out the Argos card?????

[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Happyhippy1959

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...