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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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Thanks for this!

Very sorry about that.

 

Would you expect to understand a doctor's posting?

Are you familiar with the principles underlying the overriding objective in CPR 1.1-1.4 and how it is overridden?

Or perhaps a computer programmer's language, basic, fortran, pascal C+ C++, Unix C-shell and so on?

Or someone; who uses boolean logic; if then elsif, in his sub routines to handle exception errors?

Or even perhaps someone expert in the art of woodworking with his special language?

 

I marvel at the skills of a fishmonger who can execute a fillet with precision and his language is also as special as the Nine Elms food market where grass means asparagus.

 

I may not expect to understand you in your speciality either.

 

Suggestion, why not read posts in a subject that you trained in, you will be so very much happier.

Return when you are better able to understand the post if really interested, and able to contribute rather than apply a comment that may have shades of a sleight even if not consciously apprehended, there are hundreds of others to please and excite you here.

I am confident, and I mean it, you are a very fine person, but I did say before it is not for all, and if not then don't bother with it.

There is no need to measure its unfathomableness by your own experise in the topic. I wouldn't dream of understanding a Doctor. I would need yet another degree.

 

It's like an Englishman watching a film in French, and complaining he doesn't understand; as it were the makers fault, better not to watch it.

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Thanks for this!

Very sorry about that.

 

Would you expect to understand a doctor's posting?

Are you familiar with the principles underlying the overriding objective in CPR 1.1-1.4 and how it is overridden?

Or perhaps a computer programmer's language, basic, fortran, pascal C+ C++, Unix C-shell and so on?

Or someone; who uses boolean logic; if then elsif, in his sub routines to handle exception errors?

Or even perhaps someone expert in the art of woodworking with his special language?

 

I marvel at the skills of a fishmonger who can execute a fillet with precision and his language is also as special as the Nine Elms food market where grass means asparagus.

 

I may not expect to understand you in your speciality either.

 

Suggestion, why not read posts in a subject that you trained in, you will be so very much happier.

Return when you are better able to understand the post if really interested, and able to contribute rather than apply a comment that has shades of a sleight even if not consciously apprehended, there are hundreds of others to please and excite you here.

I am confident, and I mean it, you are a very fine person, but I did say before it is not for all, and if not then don't bother with it.

There is no need to measure its unfathomableness by your own experise in the topic. I wouldn't dream of understanding a Doctor. I would need yet another degree.

I'm not sure if you meant this, but the underlying message from your post is 'Your thick, don't expect me to educate you, so just pi** off'

 

Nice!!

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Oh no Medusa, I hope you did not take my post as a criticism. It was just an involuntary expression of wonder, lol

Similarly, I suppose I could leave others gawking were I to start talking my speciality jargon.... which kind of makes me feel better...

sorry for dragging this so off topic

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My self-esteem has just disappeared into a great yawning black hole.....I don't get nearly any of the above...

:-?

 

No need to take a hit to the self-esteem, Joa my friend - I'll bet Medusa doesn't know half as much as you do about tenant law :)

 

Instead of applying the principle of reason to defend his point of view, our cohort rocket1 resorts to emotional standpoints, taking his own perceived 'cleverness' to be superior to any well thought-out, logically sound argument. Mainly, I think, because it Comes From Him. It's hazardous to do so:

 

Look, he's winding up the watch of his wit; by and by it will strike.

 

Or...don't think you're too clever with your circular reasoning, sonny jim, 'cos it'll end up biting you in the behind... ;)

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When I said this

I marvel at the skills of a fishmonger

I meant that everyone has something of value to give. And I respect the humblest in articulation for their chosen path in life.

I also said

I am confident, and I mean it, you are a very fine person.

Meaning it!

 

I made the point that everyone has their own special skills, and that I respect it, and hope they can do likeWISE.

 

No need to take a hit to the self-esteem, Joa my friend - I'll bet Medusa doesn't know half as much as you do about tenant law

 

My very point, I SECOND that!

Fallacies classical.I may not have been perfectly accurate...

Logic Reasoning Thought Laws

From a kind person Dr. Michael C. LaBossiere.

NOT ME!

 

 

The floor, oops perhaps flaw, is whoevers, for the night.

 

Such fun!

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Hi All

 

I do NOT wish to offened anyone but I have found Medusa's help very useful in my research into reclaiming an invalid parking ticket. If there is something I do not understand I have two choices I can look it up on the internet or PM medusa for a clearer explaination. After all he has put alot of time and effort into his web site and research to help others and I am sure he does not appreciate some of the comments on here. I know I would not.

 

Keep going madusa is a very helpful site.

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Hi All

 

I do NOT wish to offened anyone but I have found Medusa's help very useful in my research into reclaiming an invalid parking ticket. If there is something I do not understand I have two choices I can look it up on the internet or PM medusa for a clearer explaination. After all he has put alot of time and effort into his web site and research to help others and I am sure he does not appreciate some of the comments on here. I know I would not.

 

Keep going madusa is a very helpful site.

 

I quite agree!! it's very simple; instead of chastising someone and who clearly spends a LOT of time helping others, there is a choice; stop the spitefulness, conduct your own research and create the 'fighting your PCN for Dummies thread; you might then leave the more mature aspects of the defence to those who actually bother to read and are able to understand what Medusa's material. It is clear that many people who visit these forums are looking for a 'McDefence', a fast, off-the-shelf defence that will 'get them off' their parking ticket after which they are never seen again. For those that do give a damn, some of us want to understand the thought processes and sophistry that many of the Councils and legal 'professionals' employ (conciously and sub-conciously), when presenting their arguments. I have found Medusa's material most fascinating and very helpful.

 

Lastly, to the 'Solicitor' who used the fallacious 'call to authority' argument of "I'm a solicitor" so I must be right, I can only hope that you read Medusa's material and learn as much from Medusa as many of your more learned colleagues have gleaned from him. When you have actually read his material, if you still do not agree with it, or you take issue with it, can pick holes in it, then I am confident that Medusa will spend the time and debate openly with you; ad hominem unmasks more about the person perpetrating the attacking, than it does the receipient.

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Dear Bmwman and Johno 1066

Thanks for that! Appreciated.

I mentioned on your Bmwman thread something nasty coming up. Here it is.

 

'Without prejudice' and this may have its flaws; for which apologies in advance if any offence is caused, but the evidence argues otherwise, and a sound rebuttal is all that's needed. That; if madfe, will be unveiled at a hearing shortly.

 

Wayne Pendle, has uncovered something that may / should (if the law is strictly adhered to, as in parking enforcement?) mean all PCNs are illegal for councils whose contracts are with NCP.

 

Perhaps someone here can help.

 

We have examined the paperwork and agree there is a serious flaw, in that a “novation” agreement; essentially a renewal, is backdated, and I think this renders it illegal save from the date of signing the paperwork, and not the backdating.

 

There are now two companies, similar names, that is suspicious to begin with, WHY?

 

NCP ltd, and NCP services ltd Contracts from councils with NCP? Have to be signed, and witnessed to be effective. Councils have contracts with NCP ltd, and when the new company NCP services,took over the parking enforcements, the novation agreement was not signed.

 

The contract purports to be from March 31st 2007, BUT the signing was in January 2008.

 

This should mean that all NCP enforcement, as well as ALL NPC wardens were not effectively and legally authorised to issue tickets to the public.

 

This goes for all councils with contracts towards NCP Ltd and NCP services Ltd.

 

Any motorist should ask their council under Freedom of Information Act, if the company is NCP or NCP services, and then ask for a copy of the novation agreement to be examined by us or your own legal adviser.

 

This is ongoing, and a test case will come up soon at an adjudicator. We know how and if they will try to choreograph semantics to cut through the problem, but they will not succeed with Truth, only Ruth, with that line when disambiguated.

 

The only situation of interest is the question. IS authorisation legal when there is no formal contract in place, and can it be backdated. I think Not. The games afoot.

 

BTW I should mention that Wayne made out a cheque crossed expressly stating his payment was for ONE company NOT he other, the wrong company cashed the cheque, and have to explain it in legal terms rather than semantic glozing.

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Thanks very much for this! I am very grateful for the input it will be passed on to Wayne.

 

It constituted one of the lesser important aspects of the examination, but has a context of name changing that is part of a general feature in a topology of social engineering taking place these days that cannot I think be said to be without or devoid of some design and purpose, or agenda.

 

Namely recent cosmetic changes of PCA to IPCC, LGO to PSO, DCA to Min' of Justice. One is left a little concerned as to; arguably the need at all.

 

The most notable being a council's name change of a civil penalty; in writing several times, to an 'award', even when it rose to £1800 in the case being deployed at www.twtanb.co.uk. Not only does this dull the edge of truth, but it delivers detriment to mental health by mitigating a subtraction that IT IS, and calling it an award, that it IS NOT. It would be nice if those people responsible got their wages as a subtraction, and also called them awards. so they along with US can feel wonderful about it all.

 

A recent BBC question time also examined the need for people to change their names at certain times in life, which simply opens the eyes of enquiry and anticipation, or may be possibly seen as the fine edge of 'culpa lata.....', hidden fault, when silence is the response.

 

 

Keywords that act as touchstones to associative complexes, like local council to authority. And in PCA the inclusion of Independent, where in LGO the keywords now is Service. A name change to service whera a detriment is delivered is arguably such a keyword. One can see how this is is adding to subliminal persuasion, but perhaps it may be argued that I am looking too deeply without merit, a view I respect.

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet", and a detriment by any other name will smell deceit, just as a nettle will sting all the same whatever one calls it.

 

Unambiguous contextual inferencing, and the coherence of acts and omissions that fulfil a design and purpose teleologically are not seen so easily at the beginning, needing time and critical path observation, but unravel in accordance with several of Shakespeare's witty couplets, one of which; is the more inert being;

 

O Time, thou must untangle this, not I;

It is too hard a knot for me t' untie!

 

What would be of immense help is any views on the notion and legality of an agreement that is drafted to be signed, as distinct to signatures being affixed to an empty document before the drafting is agreed to.

 

Essentially back-dating an agreement, leaves one entitled to make an enquiry. That is what we are looking at as the central focus.

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NCP sold off its car parks department allowing the new buyer to retain the brand name and re named the Contracts side NCP services ltd, hardly suspicious.

 

Are you 'sniping' or are you entertaining serious discussion? If you are entertaining discussion this after all, is a forum), then you are so obviously 'knowledgeable' about the sale and all the parties concerned, perhaps you would share with us your thoughts on why Councils are novating agreements then backdating them to March! Perhaps you might enlighten us all as to the aspects regarding the sale, why COuncil documentation 9 months later, still refers to National Car Parks Ltd and why NCP Services Ltd, it would appear, are cashing cheques made payable to another company?

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Are you 'sniping' or are you entertaining serious discussion? If you are entertaining discussion this after all, is a forum), then you are so obviously 'knowledgeable' about the sale and all the parties concerned, perhaps you would share with us your thoughts on why Councils are novating agreements then backdating them to March! Perhaps you might enlighten us all as to the aspects regarding the sale, why COuncil documentation 9 months later, still refers to National Car Parks Ltd and why NCP Services Ltd, it would appear, are cashing cheques made payable to another company?

 

I'm doing neither just pointing out restructuring a company is hardly 'suspicious' especially when it was announced in most business sections of the daily press. I have far too much to do in my free time than to worry about pointless conspiracy theories.

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I have far too much to do in my free time than to worry about pointless conspiracy theories.

 

If YOU believe it to be a conspiracy theory and pointless then why are you "just pointing out"?

 

It's all too easy to pull out a morsel of text and ignore the meat of the content in order to make an easy conclusion that ultimately contributes very little. That i'm afraid is sniping, yes or no g&m?

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If YOU believe it to be a conspiracy theory and pointless then why are you "just pointing out"?

 

It's all too easy to pull out a morsel of text and ignore the meat of the content in order to make an easy conclusion that ultimately contributes very little. That i'm afraid is sniping, yes or no g&m?

 

If you consider disagreeing as 'sniping' then fair enough but that is just your opinion which you are entitled to just as much as I am entitled to express mine!! If anything, I would have thought your dig at me was in fact sniping since it added nothing to the discussion apart from to have a go at me.

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