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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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I am able to collect the documents from a member of the registrar office. They will meet me at reception. The deadline is Thursday.

 

no news on the statements. I will wait or tomorrows post to see if the first aiders statement arrives. If it doesn't I will ask her if I can collect a statement in person. The other statement is from my colleague. I have left a message for her today to call me so I can chase it up. She is young and gets a little intimidated by situations in the workplace.

 

I spoke to a gentleman from registrar on Thursday who assured me I was ok to hand it in by hand. He is a well known person within the company and people will know he has been my contacted.

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That's fine, lets wait and see what tomorrow brings. It's only a question of referencing the appendices when we get them.

 

Stay positive,

 

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Just been the doctors and got a copy of the it or work form. should I scan that one too?

 

Will see if anything has come in the post when I get back. I am confident the first aider will have her statement with me shortly. She is very professional.

 

the duty manager is in today. I have let a message for him to call me.

 

The girl doing the statement has still not contacted me. I don't think she wants to get involved now. Do you think the appeal can be edited a bit for that? She was the only one coming forward to say they sent me home.

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No problem, we'll see where we are this afternoon, and work with what we've got. Don't worry - we have a good appeal in progress - I don't think they'll be expecting such a detailed response!!

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Sorry, yes please do post the doctor's letter on the box.

 

You were awaiting a call from registrar yesterday regarding getting copies of documents for you to collect - did that happen?

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I was thinking that when I read it. I think the detail will really surprise them. ;)

 

I havn't been called by registrar yet, but If I get a call from that duty manager the registrar wont be need to call. I am disappointed the havn't called though. They are supposed to represent me in the company.

 

my scanner is at my dads house. his computer is much faster. I will scan any documents this afternoon, about lunch time.

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That's great - I'll post again when I've read the docs.

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The doctors letter is in the box.

 

I got a call from that duty manager. He is going to get his incident report copied and then he will call me. He was very helpful.

 

I also spoke to a colleague who help with first aid on the day and he is writing a statement which he will have for me in the morning.

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Ok, I've seen the medical certificate - did you actually go back to work on the 27th August?

 

I'd be happier if you handed the appeal in tomorrow, rather than at the last minute. You need to photocopy everything we are sending - is there a library near you where you can use a copier (or does your home printer photocopy?).

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I can get everything photocopied. close of business is 6pm tomorrow. I will get everything photocopied tonight and get it handed in tomorrow.

 

 

They told me not to come in until the day after instead. something about being overstaffed.

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You won't have everything you need tonight will you? you are waiting for the colleague to write a statement and give it to you in the morning.

 

Wait until you have everything together - we still need to edit the appeal document to reference the Appendices (which we don't have all of yet).

 

Let me know as soon as you have the statement and the duty manager's incident report.

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I am meeting my colleague David before work starts tomorrow to get his statement and hopefully the statement from that girl now.Apparently she was nervous about writing it out wrong but David is helping her. The duty manager has been unavailable most of the day in meetings (to be fare he genuinely is one of the busiest people in the company) but I should be able to get his in the morning also.

 

Like you said though, we will wait till the morning. I should have it sorted by 10am. (fingers crossed)

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I have been following this thread since I first came across it. So, DNA, I would like wish you all the best for tomorrow. Poor ell-enn must never leave her computer with all the help she gives everyone.

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DNA, once you have handed in your appeal your employer will write to you informing you of the date your appeal will be heard, who will be hearing your appeal and the place and time.

 

There's not much you can do while you're waiting for a date for the appeal to be heard - other than - stay positive. No appeal is ever a "sure thing" but in my opinion, I think you have a very good case.

 

Should it get to an ET, the tribunal would have to consider, not only if your employer acted reasonably in the circumstances, but also if any reasonable employer would have acted in the same way - and, only in my opinion, your employer did not act reasonably in those circumstances. I know I certainly wouldn't have dismissed someone who had the same absence situation as you!

 

Anyway, lets just get the appeal finalised and handed in, you can relax for a few days then.

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djgordyp, there's many more people on this site who work a lot harder and give much more time than I do - that's what makes this site so fantastic.

This thread has a lot of posts as there was a great deal of background info needed to put together a solid appeal, and DNA has put a lot of energy into collating and providing the relevant information. We should congratulate him on his positive attitude and courage in taking this to an appeal.

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We should congratulate him on his positive attitude and courage in taking this to an appeal.

 

Indeed we should. Recently I had a grievence meeting with our manager and ended up saying very little of what I had intended to. So I can imangine how daunting an appeal hearing would be.

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I have just got back.

 

I only have one statement so far.

 

The duty manager will give his statement provided the head of personal ok's it. That worried me a little. I spoke to the duty manager in person and he says he will call as soon as this happens. I stressed to him I needed to hand in my appeal by 6pm.

 

The girl giving her statement is a definite NO now. She called me this morning to say she was off sick and too ill to sign the statement. I think she got cold feet.

 

When I hand in the appeal do you think I should get written confirmation from the person who takes it as proof I have handed it in?

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