The Police cannot fine, only issue Fixed Penalty Notices.

Persuasive cases are ones that other equal status courts have dealt with, and may be used as an indication of what should be resolved. An individual judge does not have to, but usually will follow as it reduces the chance of being challenged in a higher court. If a higher court, i.e. Crown Court or Courts of Appeal have determined , these are known as having set a precedent or may be Stated Cases and MUST be followed.

We all know that VCS do not get it right on their NTK's, but why quote 2015? This gives the impression that all PCN's (not just VCS) of that period do not comply Is it possible that you were confusing it with 2012 prior to the September POFA?

Dont forget pcns from 2015 do not comply in anyway with POFA. I assume you have put this is your defence. Could you please elaborate on this statement Browntrout?

The thread will not be deleted because it is a classic example of how not to write one or respond to caggers who are trying to help. Just do not respond again and it will die a natural death. You can adjust your settings so that you do not receive further notifications should anyone add.

I share Jamberson's confusion. In post #1 you say, "But as I was not the driver at the time they sent the original appeal so I needed to check they did not provide something incorrectly. Then in post #5 you state, "I was using a friends car and had been parking in what I believed to be private car park for residents and it was signed posted as such." There are other posts referring to your address, his address, DVLA confirming no change of address and so forth. You were asked to provide clarification concerning this, but instead attacked one of the pre-eminent local authority posters. Hardly surprising that he responded as he did in post #16. The Consumers Action Group is a self help forum and it is understood that many posters will have little or no understanding of how the systems which confront them work, but it is essential that you either provide a clear narrative or bullet point presentation of the situation so that others willing to help know exactly where you stand. At the moment, it would seem that your friend (assuming that he is the registered keeper of the vehicle), is liable to this penalty and every mention of your involvement has absolutely nothing to do with that fact. Anything about failure to deliver paperwork to him is for him and him alone to resolve as in post #10, Of course it would simplify everything if he were to come on the forum himself!

Would you care to enlighten us about the new information you have revealed in post #8 concerning being followed? Your comment in the final paragraph of post # 12 is unworthy.

sad to know that I got the NiP just for driving at extra 1 more mph No, actually you received the NIP for exceeding the speed limit by 16%. I would advise you not to take the hard done by attitude to the speed awareness course if offered. I am confused by the fact that you are now claiming that 'they were behind me for at least 10 minutes of the duration.' If this were so, I would have expected them to have stopped you and issued a verbal NIP but you have not mentioned this. Can you please clarify?

I think that you are miss-reading the NIP. The penalties you are referring to are for a failure to reply, identifying the driver at the time of offence. This is separate from the original speeding offence. At 35 in a 30 mph limit you are at the very bottom of the 'culpability' scale and provided that you have not attended a speed awareness course in the last 3 years (by your post it seems most unlikely that you have) this is the most likely outcome. Get the form filled in and returned. Photocopy the completed form and send normal 1st with free signed for receipt at the Post Office.

What is stated on your invoice for the £516 job? It should be simple to determine if a hydraulic line or a fuel line was changed, both by the description on the worksheet and a physical examination of the replaced component. This could be carried out by any competent mechanic at no or little cost. If it is a fuel line that has been replaced, you will have a fairly simple claim against the Pewsham garage, provided that your instruction to them was specific with regard to it being a fault with the operation of the roof. It is a pity that you did not check the operation of the roof before leaving the garage premises, but I guess that if you were uncomfortable with their attitude, that you wanted to get away? As we do not know your location, the relative convenience of the Torquay Saab compared to Platinum at Chippenham cannot be assessed, but they are a long way apart, so I would initially visit any local repair workshop to fulfil my second paragraph above, then come back with the results for further advice. At the moment we are trying to do an NHS 111 with symptoms but no tests.

Browntrout, I think you have posted on the wrong thread!

Can you clarify a point for me? You say that the AA man who attended 'recognised it as a hydraulic problem', yet you then say that the engineer 'said that he had done his job of replacing the fuel line and it was not his fault that the roof was not working.' Is it possible that the workshop raised the wrong job sheet and the problem with the roof was in fact not touched?

I read the sign as being the only time when stopping is permitted, (other than taxis) is between 5 am and 10 am, but the second sign tells me that the stopping is for loading only during that time. In other words, private vehicles are not permitted to stop at any time! With regard to your further comment about court, parking was decriminalised several years ago, so court is not involved. Your appeal that has been rejected is known as a 'soft appeal'. If you do not pay now - it should still be at the reduced rate - it could go to a formal appeal, after which the step is for the council to apply for an order which can be enforced by bailiffs. Quite honestly I cannot see how you can avoid paying the penalty charge notice. If you are still within the period of discount following the soft appeal, that would be the best outcome. Jamberson and Michael Brown are the two most experienced Caggers on this subject, so you might want to wait for their observations.

Unfortunately you still have not answered some relevant questions. 1} What date was on the NIP? 2) What date did you respond? The reason for asking is that in addition to the time of 6 months for laying information, there are requirements for naming the driver within the time stated on the NIP/Driver identification request. If these are not met severe penalties can result. NB whilst composing a reply, Man in the middle has posted, covering the same aspects (in a very well structured way I would add) so will leave it as an 'also' post.

It would help if you gave us the date on the document and date you returned it. Some Forces do take longer than others. I do not have personal knowledge of GMP.

AndythePandy93 I suggest that you ignore anything that Browntrout posts, obviously a PPC troll. Follow the advice of regulars such as ericsbrother, renegade, brassnecked ,et al and site team members. They, ericsbrotrher in particular, have experience over many years and track records of helping deal with the dishonest PPC's

Longer answer is:- Yes provided that they comply with certain conditions, such as a notice at the point of entry from the public highway outlining terms and conditions for parking. Display details of the PPC contracted to enforce such conditions etc Details of location would help.

There is a caveat. Within the first 6 months the assumption of a fault at time of selling means that it is for the seller to disprove. This can be through showing, possibly as in the case of engine 'blowing up' in this thread, that due attention by the purchaser has not been paid to such things as the oil and water levels, all other adjustments have been maintained, any due servicing has been carried out, etc. There is actually no doubt that if you buy a vehicle and the engine blows up within three months then it is not of satisfactory quality. Because it has happened within three months and the six-month rule applies and that means that she is entitled to have a repair and if the repair fails then a refund or a replacement at her option We have not been given details of make, model, age, mileage on purchase, miles covered by OP and servicing history. It is for these reasons that I find the above post questionable.

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You could read other threads to appraise yourself of the way these people work. knowledge is power. Also read the Protection of Freedom Act 2012 and note the different sections relating to ANPR and Windscreen tickets because the PPC's often get them mixed up. When others such as ericsbrother amd brassnecked post you will have better understanding of the basis of their advice.

There are places other than London

Section 137 of The Highways Act 1980 applies everywhere that is not subject to the specific Traffic Order that permits kerb parking.

Me thinks that a pair of handcuffs may be used against the defendants! You could ask the court manager to have the 'discontinuation form' checked by the local Force's forensics team as it would appear that a very serious criminal offence has been committed. You should mention this attempted deception in your Witness Statement.

ericsbrother was asking for the time and date of the event, as shown on the NTK, not the date that it was issued.