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    • I understand what you mean. But consider that part of the problem, and the frustration of those trying to help, is the way that questions are asked without context and without straight facts. A lot of effort was wasted discussing as a consumer issue before it was mentioned that the property was BTL. I don't think we have your history with this property. Were you the freehold owner prior to this split? Did you buy the leasehold of one half? From a family member? How was that funded (earlier loan?). How long ago was it split? Have either of the leasehold halves changed hands since? I'm wondering if the split and the leashold/freehold arrangements were set up in a way that was OK when everyone was everyone was connected. But a way that makes the leasehold virtually unsaleable to an unrelated party.
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Hi.

 

Abbey have entered a defence via MCOL 'The Defendant disputes the whole amount you have claimed. Your claim cannot proceed online and will be transferred to the appropriate court for continuation. You will receive confirmation to where the claim has been transferred to shortly'.

 

Would like some advice on what to expect now?

 

Thanks.

 

Simon.

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Hi again all,

 

Firstly, thanks to Michael (as above), I have sent you a message in relation to the link.

 

Secondly (and more importantly), I have the defence from Abbey. Here goes:-

 

The defence will refer at trial to the full conditions of the terms of the account being opened. We refer to the following extracts:-

 

"You can apply for an overdraft on your account, we tell you the interest rate and the limit applicable".

 

"an unauthorised overdraft occurs if without our agreement you overdraw your account or exceed the limit which we have agreed".

 

"If you have an unauthorised overdraft, you will be charged fees as set out in our tariff of charges or specified to you and these may include fees for transactions we are unable to process due to lack of funds in your account".

"Throughout this period, the claimant received a number of copies of the conditions of the said tariff as amended and updated and any overdraft is subject to these conditions".

" The claimant has exceeded the overdraft limit on a number of occassions, thereby, by virtue of these conditions, such overdrawing is unauthorised and in breach of contract and the claimant is liable for any fees in accordance with the tariff".

 

"The claimants contention that the fees are unenforceable and/or are 'penalty charges' is denied. the fees reflect and are proportionate to the defendants adimistration costs by the claimants breach of contract. The defendant denies that the claimant is entitled to claim interest at all".

"Similarly, the claimant is unable to recover charges incurred prior to 30 Jan 2001 by virtue of the Limitation Act 1980, sect 5 - I am only claiming for the past 18 months!!!!!

This has now been ended by MCOL and transferred to Peterborough County Court for them to hear it. The court date has not been set, however, I have to pay an extra £100 and complete their questionaire by 17th March.

 

Anyone had a similar defence and is it worth continuing??

 

Regards.

 

Simon.

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Anyone had a similar defence and is it worth continuing??

 

Completely standard, you can tell how standard by the inclusion on the Limitation Act paragraph.

 

When the AQ is sent to you use these threads:

Allocation Questionnaires - A guide to completion

New strategy for Allocation Questionaires

 

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Hi again.

 

Next update........

 

Would you believe it, Abbey sent me a letter this morning completely out of the blue to offer an out of court settlement of £1419 against the £2838.91 claimed. Only thing (looking at it properly) is that they state this is in full and final settlement and conditional on Abbey verifying the charges sought in the claim.

 

Has anybody had an offer like this? would love some guidance!!

 

Half of me thinks that if I accepted this offer, they would find a way to whittle down the claim to nearly nothing. What do I have to lose by putting in the full claim and does anybody think Abbey will settle for the full amount?

 

Thanks very much - you have all been really helpful!!

 

Regards.

 

Simon.

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Thanks very much Michael!!!

 

I am going to use letter 6 and reject the offer. The AQ will be sent off first thing Monday morning. We shall see what happens then.

 

Thanks and regards.

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Hello Not long now and you will have your money wait for judges directions and then get all you paprework ready and filed and then watch them squirm. Mails and phone calls will be coming thick and fast . Just keep the faith. I did cheque arrived today.

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Hi again all,

 

This can be such a slow process........

 

Have had a reply from Peterborough County Court, with a 'Directions' date of 22nd May. Ive been asked to attend and it should take ten minutes.

 

What should I expect - and what should I do now??

 

Thanks very much - your help has been invalueble!!!!

 

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Hi spgoldy!

 

what happened in the end with your claim.

 

I was getting into your thread and then it seemed to end in April! Please update. :)

 

Warm regards,

 

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