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    • Thank-you dx, What you have written is certainly helpful to my understanding. The only thing I would say, what I found to be most worrying and led me to start this discussion is, I believe the judge did not merely admonish the defendant in the case in question, but used that point to dismiss the case in the claimants favour. To me, and I don't have your experience or knowledge, that is somewhat troubling. Again, the caveat being that we don't know exactly what went on but I think we can infer the reason for the judgement. Thank-you for your feedback. EDIT: I guess that the case I refer to is only one case and it may never happen again and the strategy not to appeal is still the best strategy even in this event, but I really did find the outcome of that case, not only extremely annoying but also worrying. Let's hope other judges are not quite so narrow minded and don't get fixated on one particular issue as FTMDave alluded to.
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    • the claimant in their WS can refer to whatever previous CC judgements they like, as we do in our WS's, but CC judgements do not set a legal precedence. however, they do often refer to judgements like Bevis, those cases do created a precedence as they were court of appeal rulings. as for if the defendant, prior to the raising of a claim, dobbed themselves in as the driver in writing during any appeal to the PPC, i don't think we've seen one case whereby the claimant referred to such in their WS.. ?? but they certainly typically include said appeal letters in their exhibits. i certainly dont think it's a good idea to 'remind' them of such at the defence stage, even if the defendant did admit such in a written appeal. i would further go as far to say, that could be even more damaging to the whole case than a judge admonishing a defendant for not appealing to the PPC in the 1st place. it sort of blows the defendant out the water before the judge reads anything else. dx  
    • Hi LFI, Your knowledge in this area is greater than I could possibly hope to have and as such I appreciate your feedback. I'm not sure that I agree the reason why a barrister would say that, only to get new customers, I'm sure he must have had professional experience in this area that qualifies him to make that point. 🙂 In your point 1 you mention: 1] there is a real danger that some part of the appeal will point out that the person appealing [the keeper ] is also the driver. I understand the point you are making but I was referring to when the keeper is also the driver and admits it later and only in this circumstance, but I understand what you are saying. I take on board the issues you raise in point 2. Is it possible that a PPC (claimant) could refer back to the case above as proof that the motorist should have appealed, like they refer back to other cases? Thanks once again for the feedback.
    • Well barristers would say that in the hope that motorists would go to them for advice -obviously paid advice.  The problem with appealing is at least twofold. 1] there is a real danger that some part of the appeal will point out that the person appealing [the keeper ] is also the driver.  And in a lot of cases the last thing the keeper wants when they are also the driver is that the parking company knows that. It makes it so much easier for them as the majority  of Judges do not accept that the keeper and the driver are the same person for obvious reasons. Often they are not the same person especially when it is a family car where the husband, wife and children are all insured to drive the same car. On top of that  just about every person who has a valid insurance policy is able to drive another person's vehicle. So there are many possibilities and it should be up to the parking company to prove it to some extent.  Most parking company's do not accept appeals under virtually any circumstances. But insist that you carry on and appeal to their so called impartial jury who are often anything but impartial. By turning down that second appeal, many motorists pay up because they don't know enough about PoFA to argue with those decisions which brings us to the second problem. 2] the major parking companies are mostly unscrupulous, lying cheating scrotes. So when you appeal and your reasons look as if they would have merit in Court, they then go about  concocting a Witness Statement to debunk that challenge. We feel that by leaving what we think are the strongest arguments to our Member's Witness Statements, it leaves insufficient time to be thwarted with their lies etc. And when the motorists defence is good enough to win, it should win regardless of when it is first produced.   
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Hiya all,

 

Just wondering if anybody has had any dealings in the past or present with MKRR (Milton Keynes Rapid Recoveries)..

 

Since Lewis group failed with my GF CCA request and not heard from them for 2 months she gets a letter from MKRR trying to collect etc, I sent them the ACCOUNT SOLD WHILST IN DISPUTE letter and now sent one back saying they will futher action blah blah blah, so sending them the last letter today and making a complaint with OFT etc..

 

Let us know if you know anything bout them as ive googled the name but nothing comes up..

 

Thanks again

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Name & Registered Office:

TRADEPRO OPERATIONS LIMITED

TRADEPRO HOUSE

SEEBECK PLACE KNOWLHILL

MILTON KEYNES

BUCKINGHAMSHIRE

MK5 8FR

Company No. 04746414

 

 

 

 

Status: Active

Date of Incorporation: 28/04/2003

 

Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

Nature of Business (SIC(03)):

7487 - Other business activities

Accounting Reference Date: 31/12

Last Accounts Made Up To: 31/12/2008 (FULL)

Next Accounts Due: 30/09/2010

Last Return Made Up To: 19/04/2009

Next Return Due: 17/05/2010

Last Members List: 19/04/2009

Previous Names:

Date of change Previous Name

08/05/2003 PINCO 1937 LIMITED

26/06/2003 CAMEL OPERATIONS LIMITED

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Company Name: TRADEPRO OPERATIONS LIMITED

 

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Previous Name(s): CAMEL OPERATIONS LIMITED (until 26/06/2003)

PINCO 1937 LIMITED (until 08/05/2003)

 

Registered Number: 04746414

 

Registered Office: TRADEPRO HOUSE

SEEBECK PLACE KNOWLHILL

MILTON KEYNES

BUCKINGHAMSHIRE

MK5 8FR

 

Incorporation Date: 28/04/2003

 

Country Of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

 

Accounting Reference Date: 31/12

Last Accounts Made Up To: 31/12/2008

Next Accounts Due: 30/09/2010

 

Last Annual Return: 19/04/2009

Next Annual Return Due: 17/05/2010

 

Company Status: Active

Type of Accounts: FULL Accounts

 

Nature Of Business: 7487 - Other business activities

 

 

Filing History

 

 

05/02/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER SALES

27/12/2009 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, SECRETARY CRAIG ALLAN

27/12/2009 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR CRAIG ALLAN

26/10/2009 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/12/08

11/10/2009 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR JAMES ROY CLARK / 09/10/2009

11/10/2009 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / CRAIG MCLEOD ALLAN / 09/10/2009

09/10/2009 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR JAMES ROY CLARK / 09/10/2009

09/10/2009 SECRETARY'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / CRAIG MCLEOD ALLAN / 09/10/2009

09/10/2009 SECRETARY'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / CRAIG MCLEOD ALLAN / 09/10/2009

09/10/2009 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / CRAIG MCLEOD ALLAN / 09/10/2009

09/10/2009 SECRETARY'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / CRAIG MCLEOD ALLAN / 09/10/2009

21/04/2009 RETURN MADE UP TO 19/04/09; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

18/03/2009 APPOINTMENT TERMINATE, DIRECTOR DAVID GRAHAM BLOOM LOGGED FORM

11/02/2009 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED DIRECTOR RICHARD MCDOUGALL

11/02/2009 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED DIRECTOR AND SECRETARY DAVID BLOOM

01/02/2009 DIRECTOR AND SECRETARY APPOINTED CRAIG MCLEOD ALLAN

02/05/2008 RETURN MADE UP TO 19/04/08; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

01/05/2008 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/12/07

10/04/2008 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/12/06

11/12/2007 PARTICULARS OF MORTGAGE/CHARGE

10/09/2007 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

30/08/2007 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 30/08/07 FROM:

G OFFICE CHANGED 30/08/07

TRADE PRO HOUSE 2-4 MEADOW CLOSE

ISE VALLEY INDUSTRIAL ESTATE

FINEDON ROAD WELLINGBOROUGH

NORTHAMPTONSHIRE NN8 4BH

30/05/2007 RETURN MADE UP TO 19/04/07; NO CHANGE OF MEMBERS

20/11/2006 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

15/11/2006 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/12/05

28/04/2006 RETURN MADE UP TO 19/04/06; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

09/11/2005 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/12/04

13/06/2005 SECRETARY'S PARTICULARS CHANGED;DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

24/05/2005 RETURN MADE UP TO 28/04/05; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

11/05/2005 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

06/04/2005 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

17/12/2004 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

17/12/2004 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

02/11/2004 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/12/03

15/07/2004 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

08/07/2004 PARTICULARS OF MORTGAGE/CHARGE

29/04/2004 RETURN MADE UP TO 12/03/04; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

LOCATION OF DEBENTURE REGISTER ADDRESS CHANGED

17/03/2004 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

19/12/2003 PARTICULARS OF MORTGAGE/CHARGE

01/07/2003 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 01/07/03 FROM:

G OFFICE CHANGED 01/07/03

CAMEL HOUSE 2-4 MEADOW CLOSE

ISE VALLEY INDUSTRIAL ESTATE

FINEDON ROAD WELLINGBOROUGH

NORTHAMPTONSHIRE NN8 4BH

26/06/2003 COMPANY NAME CHANGED

CAMEL OPERATIONS LIMITED

CERTIFICATE ISSUED ON 26/06/03

16/06/2003 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 16/06/03 FROM:

G OFFICE CHANGED 16/06/03

52-60 SANDERS ROAD

WELLINGBOROUGH

NORTHAMPTONSHIRE

NN8 4BX

16/06/2003 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

16/06/2003 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

16/06/2003 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

S386 DISP APP AUDS 06/06/03

S252 DISP LAYING ACC 06/06/03

S366A DISP HOLDING AGM 06/06/03

16/06/2003 ALTERATION TO MEMORANDUM AND ARTICLES

24/05/2003 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

24/05/2003 ACC. REF. DATE SHORTENED FROM 30/04/04 TO 31/12/03

22/05/2003 SECRETARY'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

22/05/2003 DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

19/05/2003 SECRETARY RESIGNED

19/05/2003 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

19/05/2003 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED;NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

19/05/2003 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

18/05/2003 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 18/05/03 FROM:

G OFFICE CHANGED 18/05/03

1 PARK ROW

LEEDS

LS1 5AB

18/05/2003 ALTERATION TO MEMORANDUM AND ARTICLES

08/05/2003 COMPANY NAME CHANGED

PINCO 1937 LIMITED

CERTIFICATE ISSUED ON 08/05/03

28/04/2003 INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS

CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION

STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE

DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE

MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION

ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION

 

 

Mortgages

 

No. Mortgage Charges: 3

Mortgage Charges Outstanding: 3

Mortgage Charges Part Satisfied: 0

Mortgage Charges Satisfied: 0

 

 

Charge No: 1

Creation Date: 09/12/2003

Registered: 19/12/2003

Satisfied: Outstanding

Description: COMPOSITE GUARANTEE AND DEBENTURE

Person(s) Entitled To Charge: BARCLAYS BANK PLC

Charge No: 2

Creation Date: 06/07/2004

Registered: 08/07/2004

Satisfied: Outstanding

Description: COMPOSITE GUARANTEE AND DEBENTURE

Person(s) Entitled To Charge: CS CAPITAL PARTNERS II, LP

Charge No: 3

Creation Date: 28/11/2007

Registered: 11/12/2007

Satisfied: Outstanding

Description: AN AMENDMENT AND RESTATEMENT AGREEMENT

Person(s) Entitled To Charge: BARCLAYS BANK PLC

 

 

 

 

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I must say the initial reference to MKRR as "Clowns" does not seem to be particularly well researched, I had welcome finance for a car, I lost my job and the debt was sold to MKRR who handled the debt in a very responsible and helpful manner, far better than welcome had ever done.

It is easy to jump on the backs of debt collection agencies and curse them, however if we were not stupid enough to get ourselves into debt in the first place companies like mkrr would not need to exist, I view it as it was me who borrowed the money so its me who will pay it back, MKRR have gone out of there way to help me through this and perhaps you guys need to look at your own failings before you judge, after all they would not be contacting you if you were paying back the money that you agreed to pay back when you borrowed it, YOU SIGNED THE CONTRACTS AND YOU SPENT THE MONEY !!!

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i have debt with welcome myself, and also refer to smokinjoe2 he also refers to welcome, im not here to argue with you guys that really does not interest me all i am saying is mkrr treat me in a good profesional manner, if thats too much for you guys to deal with then im sorry.

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Its Ive Never Yet Seen A Thread Where A Dca Has Been Nice

 

For Your Info Ive Also Yet To See A Welcome Agreement Thats Enforceable

 

A Little Tit Bit

 

Welcome Elite Brokers And Wilson V Hurstanger

 

Welcome Agreements Are No More Than Lemons

 

And Yes People Borrow Money And Expect To Pay It Back,

Not Get Shafted By The Likes Of Welcome From The Start With There Dubiouse Business Practice

 

No Other Dca Is Touching Welcome Agreements Then Mkrr Come Onto The Block

 

Cattles Must Be Desperate

 

What Is It

 

Two Pence In The Pound

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i know welcome treat me as tho i did not exist, i missed 2 payments and ended up with £3700 in interest and charges by the end of it, it was horrible dealing with them and i wish i had never taken the car finance in the first place, however i am in the army and i must pay my debts or i get into serious bother.

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I can assure you I live nowhere near wellingborough, i live in scotton , north yorkshire, and sorry if i insult your inteligence again but what has wellingborough or where i live got to do with anything anyway?

 

Then why is your IP this?

 

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Geolocation InformationCountry: United Kingdom

State/Region: Northamptonshire

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i am reme, i know a few rgj guys tho, based on leyburn rd catterick (if you know it) you prob did your basic at vimy barracks?

 

oh and cerbulerst, im really sorry man you have issues i dont even know what your talking about now its pointles getting techy with me but i can assure you i aint in wellingbro

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Hey post, if it helps my credentials i work for the REME on leyburn rd, I know a few RGJ guys and I even spent time with c coy 4rgj in clifton st teaching there MT guys how to do the job.

If your rgj there is a strong poss you did your basic at vimy bks in catterick?

i am based just up from there in leyburn rd if you know it ?

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couldnt tell you, i never said i was based at c coy i said i did some training of there guys there, there hq was davies st london, mt was at west ham and a det at mile end too, your original cross belt badge was a silver "fallen angel" if you know your history and your the only reg that i know of that does not have to stand in the presence of the queen lol (tho you do anyway)

 

ps sorry i repeated some stuff but my pc is playing up)

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