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Old 29th January 2008, 23:34   #1 (permalink)
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My wife forgot to declare her classic car SORN - I've done it the last 2 years and now shes been sent a threatening letter demanding immediate payment. Is it worth mounting a defence?
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,if the car is off the road write a nice apoligy and explain it was a complete oversight and you really are not in a position to pay ,due to financial hardship and could they please consider your request also phone them with your apoligies i have found they really do listen and if you have extenuating circumstances and on any sort of dissability they will write it of and send you a letter
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When you say classic car do you mean over 25 years old? I thought they were exempt from road tax anyway?

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Oops, it appears my knowledge is a bit behind on this...

according to Introduction to Classic Cars and oldclassiccar.co.uk

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yes on re reading this thread i am unsure i was not sure wether you have to sorn a classic car like you have said pink so details not clear enough....usually sorn is for cars of the road ,i thought anyway
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Do you have to keep renewing?

We have a car that's been sat in the garage for a few years and will be for a few more, we filled out a sorn form when we got the car, but I am sure we have not had any reminders should I be worried?

Sorry to hijack your thread but you have me worried now
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according to Introduction to Classic Cars and oldclassiccar.co.uk




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Yes, that was a sneaky Gordon Brown trick. So now, instead of cars over 25 having paid their dues, they have to have been build prior to 1972 (which at the time was 25 years) - how many cars will still be on the road in 20 years that were built prior to that date? Not very many I would bet.
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A SORN declaration lasts for twelve months. You must declare a new SORN when the old one expires.
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thank you so much I get hubby on to it later
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Hi all,
Thank you for the advice. The car is 1978, so not Tax exempt and is garaged. It seems like daylight robbery to me. £80 for not filling in a form. £10 might be more reasonable. I can't see on what grounds £80 is justifed.
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Thank you for the advice. The car is 1978, so not Tax exempt and is garaged. It seems like daylight robbery to me. £80 for not filling in a form. £10 might be more reasonable. I can't see on what grounds £80 is justifed.
Tell them you filled in a SORN form on xx date and posted it to Swansea, suggest that it must have got lost in the post, but that you have done the correct thing and borrowed someones computer and gone online to do it immediately.

Go now to DVLA Online Vehicle Licensing | Home with the reference number from your V5, do the SORN, then post them the letter about form getting lost in the post.
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No, they are not exempt. They have a VED of £0 - a VED disk still has to be displayed.
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Interesting fact that I didn't know, thanks Pat
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"Tell them you filled in a SORN form on xx date and posted it to Swansea, suggest that it must have got lost in the post," Do this - i have! - 2 or 3 times over the last few years and its always worked.
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I too have received a SORN fine just recently...Im having financial difficulties and have posted a letter explaining so today..fingers crossed
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well my first comment so hi to all
i purchased a car in october which was sorn as it was a none runner got fine through today i know the previous owner and personally declared it sorn via the web to which a letter confirmed should i have re-sorn when the owner transfered as i cant find anywhere which tells you to do so??
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well my first comment so hi to all
i purchased a car in october which was sorn as it was a none runner got fine through today i know the previous owner and personally declared it sorn via the web to which a letter confirmed should i have re-sorn when the owner transfered as i cant find anywhere which tells you to do so??
Taken from dvla's website under the FAQs:

I am buying a vehicle and the previous keeper has already declared SORN. Do I have to do anything?

Yes. As the new keeper you are required to do one of two things:

· Apply for a tax disc

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· Declare SORN from the date of acquisition, as SORN is not transferable.
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Yes, that was a sneaky Gordon Brown trick. So now, instead of cars over 25 having paid their dues, they have to have been build prior to 1972 (which at the time was 25 years) - how many cars will still be on the road in 20 years that were built prior to that date? Not very many I would bet.
That worries me now. I was given a 1931 Rolls Royce Phantom I in 1982 by a family friend in his Will after I showed an interest in it as a child. I still have the logbook but I've never updated the RK address when I moved over the years. I mothballed it in 1983 after it appeared in the TV miniseries AJ Wentworth BA. I had it expert-restored in 1989 and it took park in several vintage car rallies (not driven by me) still showing it's 1974 tax disc.

Its one of two classic cars I have, the other, also inherited in 1992 is a mothballed 1983 De Lorean DMC-12 (never driven, doesn't go), and neither are SORN,

Whats likely to happen if I updated the RK to my present home address? Would I get years of backdated SORN fines?
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