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    • Hi, I've been reading the invaluable advice on this forum and reading about the problems with Evri and lost delivery of items.  From what I gather the initial steps after having exhausted every's own lost item claim process is to draft a Letter of Claim, I think it is called and to register with the government Money Claims.  I have got a login for Money Claims and have made an initial stab at the letter but I'm not certain I have got it right. Am I right to assume that having exhausted Evri customer service's claims process and having received the denial of any compensation because the laptop I was sending is on the non-compensatory list that my next step would be to send the Letter of Claim to them? Let me provide some basic details which I hopefully have addressed in the letter. I purchased a laptop through Amazon.co.uk which a business in Belfast sold refurbished laptops through.  They had a 30 day money back guarantee for a full refund if you have any issues with the laptop.  I have the invoice from Amazon showing the purchase.  On 27 April, 2024 before the end of the 30 day period I used their ParcelShop (inside a Tesco) to send the laptop back and have the tracking reference mentioned in the letter.  As mentioned in the letter there was they advised they could not give me or sell me any insurance because laptops are on the non-compensatory list so I just paid the normal delivery cost.  It was scanned as leaving the ParcelShop on 29 April and the tracking has been like that ever since.  After a 28 working day Evri claim process they gave the expected response that they could not provide any compensation and simply could not proceed with my claim. I was hoping to get some advice on whether I go ahead now and email this to Customer Services straightaway and should I send a hard-copy to the Evri address as well?  Or are there any steps I have missed out on first?  I believe 14 days is the reasonable period of time for them to respond so if I were to send it tomorrow, for example 12 June then I should expect a reply by 26 June, is that correct and fair?  And assuming they don't reply with a full refund then I would then go down the government Money Claims site to proceed with that? Sorry for all the questions, I want to make sure I go about it properly.  I'll continue to read through other cases on here so I can get an even better handle on the process. I attached a LOC, happy for any edits or updates that will make it even better. Thanks so much for anyone's help! Regards, Matt Evri letter of claim.docx
    • The date was 3 June. Get on MCOL now. The legal principle is that, even if you defence is late, if the other party hasn't requested judgement, then your defence takes priority and is accepted. You might be in time. When I say now I mean now.  Recently we had someone who was nine days' late and this was pointed out to them at 5:30pm.  They faffed around till 11pm.  When they went on MCOl they saw that judgement had been entered at 7pm. Every minute is vital. File the below standard defence if you still can - 1.  The Defendant is the recorded keeper of [motor vehicle]. 2.  It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant. 3.  As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance.  The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner.  Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim.    4.  In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant. 5.  The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer.  6.  The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety.  It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all.
    • Hi friends,  I’m a bit worried I may have got confused with timings here. I thought I had 33 days from my acknowledgment to submit a defence but the date added above says 3/6/24.   have I missed the date?   if so how can I apply for an exception due to my disability and problems with deadlines and dates etc (ADHD)?   what should I submit as a defence?   I’ve had no reply from BW so far    just been back on MCOL and it says 28 days from service if I completed an acknowledgment of service so does that mean 28 days from that of acknowledgement (I.e. 16/5) which would make deadline for defence 14/6?   Thanks! Panicking here.
    • Normally we don't advise playing your cards early in a snotty letter, but as you have appealed we might as well use what you wrote in the appeal against them. There is no rush, you have until 6 July to get it to them.  See what the other regulars think too. How about something like this? -   Dear Rachael & Sean, cheers for your Letter of Claim.  I rolled around on the floor in laughter at the idea you'd actually thought I'd take such tripe seriously and would cough up! As usual you'll have been too bone idle to do any due diligence.  Had you done so you would have seen that I appealed to your client.  Indeed the driver on the day is a textbook example of having done exactly what you should do when you do not wish to be bound by the T&Cs in a private car park. Of course none of that mattered to the spivs you represent but do you really want to put such a useless case in front of a judge? To be fair, your clients are very useful members of the human race - as comedians.  How I loved the page turner of their antics at The Citrus Building in Bournemouth.  It was chuckle after chuckle reading about them, letter after letter, month after month, insisting they were legally in the right, even through someone who had done just the first day of a GCSE law course could have told them they weren't.  Until the denouement - BOOM - an absolute hammering in court.  In fact - SLAM, BANG - managing to lose twice against the same motorist for the same car park in front of two different judges. Your client can either drop their foolishness now or get yet another tolchocking* in court where I will go for an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and spend the dosh on a nice summer holiday, while every day laughing at your clients' expense. I look forward to your deafening silence. COPIED TO COUNTRYWIDE PARKING MANAGEMENT LTD   *  This word is used under licence from Brassnecked
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They have already got the stay. This is a hearing to have it set aside.

Do the directions say that they have to set it up Penfold?

 

 

Yes, " The Defendant's Legal Representative is ordered to arrange the telephone hearing."

 

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Question is, if they don't set it up - what happens? Does the judge find for the claimant or just leave the stay in anyway?

 

 

I guess I could ask for strike out based on not complying with court order/ direction?

 

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Sorry ,Freaky, what I meant to say was 'they must be pretty sure they're going to get the stay upheld' - icon11.gif one word makes a difference doesn't it!

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Sorry ,Freaky, what I meant to say was 'they must be pretty sure they're going to get the stay upheld' - icon11.gif one word makes a difference doesn't it!

 

 

Can someone please explain why is a telephone hearing so expensive? Surely in this day and age a three way call is not that bad?

 

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Sorry I don't know Penfold - maybe because it's got to be a dedicated line specially set up - but I know the banks paid up rather than do it....

 

Ps Thanks to whoever gave me a rep tic ?

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Freaky, I just don't know! I just got the impression that when the judge ordered one in my case (twice), they came back immediately with an offer. 1x Barclays, 1x HSBC

 

It may be the hassle of setting one up, bearing in mind what solicitors charge for an hourly rate :rolleyes: or it may be the cost- but I don't think I've ever heard a price mentioned :?

 

Have we got any telephone engineers or sales people on the forum who could tell us?

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I have heard a few times that is is the expense that puts them off from setting these things up but I don't think it would compair to paying a barrister to attend court.

 

Lets hope there are some BT engineers out there who can tell us.

 

 

My thoughts too.

 

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love it freaky..........lol. liek the new avatar.............

 

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theres a couple oif links... with some info on them.... not sure if DG will use BT

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theres a couple oif links... with some info on them.... not sure if DG will use BT

 

You're a little beaver,Auburn, digging out that lot.........:)

 

Well, these options seem to be as cheap as chips, so not sure where the cost comes in? BT is apparently 80% more than the first one, but even that's not bank-breaking - Oops! sorry, no pun intended! :D

 

Be interesting to see what information the court give Penfold .........

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You're a little beaver,Auburn, digging out that lot.........:)

 

Well, these options seem to be as cheap as chips, so not sure where the cost comes in? BT is apparently 80% more than the first one, but even that's not bank-breaking - Oops! sorry, no pun intended! :D

 

Be interesting to see what information the court give Penfold .........

 

 

Court has merely reitterated that Defendant will speak to the call conference operator to organise. That's it...sit and wait, but I have told Judge do not know proceedure and told DG to ring me too so no excuse for either of them. Trying to cover all bases...

 

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told DG to ring me too

 

I wouldn't wait for them to tell you the arrangements, Penfold they'd like nothing better than a hearing without you there...... I think I'd e-mail(with receipt request) or fax them for details of what they're setting up and when - that way if they don't answer you've got proof that you asked..... :)

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I wouldn't wait for them to tell you the arrangements, Penfold they'd like nothing better than a hearing without you there...... I think I'd e-mail(with receipt request) or fax them for details of what they're setting up and when - that way if they don't answer you've got proof that you asked..... :)

 

 

LOL True fully expecting them to play the game. In a way I would not mind, because i will be on them before the date, but make the court aware of the letters etc. (all will be recorded too)

 

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fully expecting them to play the game

 

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S'cuse me while I change my pants! :D Tell me you're kidding........LOL :grin: :grin:

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of course, but who knows what and how they will do things now with more and more people are applying to set aside the stays. We will have to monitor what the Judges do and say. I guess next month we will have a better picture after a few people get their hearings...

 

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guess next month we will have a better picture after a few people get their hearings...

 

 

 

Sorry, you're right, Penfold - my son is one of them.......:)

 

I guess I'm just an old cynic LOL! - comes of dealing with banks for the last year and reading the posts of people who they've ruined, lied to and misled, whilst plundering their accounts with unlawful charges. :D

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Sorry, you're right, Penfold - my son is one of them.......:)

 

I guess I'm just an old cynic LOL! - comes of dealing with banks for the last year and reading the posts of people who they've ruined, lied to and misled, whilst plundering their accounts with unlawful charges. :D

 

 

No problems!

 

I truely believe I have an angle that may just get somewhere, but I would rather fail on my own than let anyone else try and fail...

 

If it works well that will be great and the walls may fall down again...

 

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Loving your attitude Penfold!!! The more people that start thinking outside the box the better! The banks will not win on this issue in the long run as long as people don't give up!

 

 

Thanks for the reputation then mate...lol

 

Anyway it really takes the mickey all this. I hope and trust that the judicial system will realise that the public is not interested in waiting several years for a result...We are entitled to a quick and fair trial, why have these guys been allowed to payout shed loads, never go to court and yet now have a right to just postpone the inevitable?

 

Come on guys...Fight the good fight,

 

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