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    • new thread created for this claimform please post here now for anything to do with it now . pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’. Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID. You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .. get a CCA Request running to the claimant . https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332502-cca-request-consumer-credit-act-1974-updated-january-2015/ .. Leave the £1 PO unsigned and uncrossed . get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant] ... https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ . .use our other CPR letter if the claim is for an OD or Telecom Debt or Util debt]  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ on BOTH type your name ONLY Do Not sign anything .do not ever use or give an email . you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork  you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count] ..............  
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? lowell Solicitors : Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment? May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
    • Just an update for all. I received about a letter every other week, increasing in threat levels. Then I hadn't had one for a about two weeks, then Saturday received a carbon copy of the very first letter they sent me in February. Made me laugh, rinse and repeat. 
    • So, your response was not received by the SCP as you did not send it with a valid stamp. Therefore, from my two option in post #14, the first option is the only one available to you, but you do not have the option of asking to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level as the reason the SCP did not receive your response was down to you. Here's a reminder of what to do: Respond to the SJPN by pleading “Not Guilty” to both charges. In the “Reasons for pleading Not Guilty” box state that you are willing to plead guilty to the speeding charge providing, and only providing, the “Fail to Provide Driver's Details" (FtP) charge is dropped. This is a tried and tested method to deal with your problem and is almost always successful. Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to do this "deal" because it needs the agreement of the police prosecutor.. During the pandemic courts made every effort to have as few  people as possible attend and they began doing this deal under the "Single Justice" procedure without the defendant's attendance. Some courts have carried this procedure on whilst others have reverted to a personal attendance being necessary. If you are required to attend, your case will be taken out of the SJ procedure and you will be given a date for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. If that is the way they do it in the area involved you will have to attend, see the prosecutor and offer your "deal" in person. 
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Hi I sent moorcroft a cca request for an argos account,

I have been paying them each month, at the beginning of the agreement it was the agreed £5 via the ccca, (no longer with the ccca) then it went to £10 then to £20.

Today I received a copy of a CCA with my signature on it.

Well it is an Application form anyway, which it states in the top left corner

Your Application for the Argos Card

Also at the top it states

Credit Agreement Regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974

It is the sheet that has a signature on and also my bank details for the direct debit.

Puzzled though this would have been filled out in a store and the top part where my address details are etc, are actually typed up, and the rest is hand written.

I believe this may have been cut and pasted to look like it is all on one sheet, as there are a couple of lines etc that do not follow on, for example

there is a line straight though the whole sheet of paper, and there is a gap where it doesn't actaully join up

 

In the letter from Moorcroft it states

Please find enclosed a copy of the relevant agreement under the Consumer Credit Act in relation to the above account.

I can confirm that I have placed your account on hold until 13th August 2007 adn request that you make immediate contact with our call centre on the above telephone number to discuss a repayment proposal you can afford and maintain

When I get chance I will try to scan it a post it up (when I have learnt how)

Any advise on what to do now

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Bad News, it's a really dodgey scan wink.gif

 

Good news it isn't enforceable as it is simply an application form.

No APR

No Credit Limit

No T&C as mentioned

NOT signed by them

therefore unexcuted, not to mention anything about the obvious C&P's

 

 

Basically complete carp

Be VERY careful whose advice you listen too

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Bad News, it's a really dodgey scan wink.gif

 

 

CB - you're such a trickster :D

I'm midway through the tunnel, but getting closer to the light.

 

 

 

Please be aware that i am not an expert in anything!

I may offer an opinion, but the final decision is yours.

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Hi,

In the same boat as you I recieved same letter yesterday from Moorcroft with Application Form, well over the time limit. Did you CCA Argos as well? I did, they sent Application Form as well plus seperate terms and conditions, Found out that Argos still own the Debt as they told me that in there letter. So I am not paying Moorcroft anything as they dont own it.

Just another one of thier nice letters they send out.

 

Listen to Curlyben he writes some really nice letters

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Darn, looks like I'll have to change them then.

They're not meant to be "nice" ;)

 

Remember under s175 of the CCA, requests to agents are meant to be passed to the OC for action, so there's no need to CCA Argos as well as one request covers them both.

Be VERY careful whose advice you listen too

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Hi CB

Moorcrofts time is up now, they sent me the carpy App form, but nothing else. I have been paying Moorcroft, now for two accounts, this one and one they closed. Is it still too early to ask for a statement of accounts for each one. I didn't want to ask for the closed one, as didn't want to remind them that their time was running out on the Argos one.

Will it be OK for me to phone them, or is there a standard letter to send.

WHat happens then when I get a statement of account, how do I claim my money back.

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What if like the others it gets sent to another dca, should I then send them a sars, what i want is as I have been paying them, i don;t think it has been coming off the balance, so should moorcroft refund me, if I have been paying and it has come off the balance, then thats fine, but if it has been payed into their bank account and nothing else I want it back

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Unfortunately it's gone for good.#You could try and sue them for deception or obtaining money under false pretences, but in all honesty is it really worth the protracted time and effort.

Be VERY careful whose advice you listen too

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