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    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
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Hi To Every One'' This Is My First Post On Here, My Case Has Been Running Since Feb' 07' And I Have Finally Got A Court Hearing Date For 30th July' The Yorkshire Bank And Its Solicitors Have Dragged It Out For Months. And I Got Fed Up Of All Their Lame Excuses, The Same Stuff' Its All My Fault And So On. And Blaiming Every Tom Dick And Harry Except Themselves'' For Their Charges Against Me.

 

The Charges Are Almost £5,000 And With Interest £7-500. I Told The Bank I Would Settle For £5.000. They Refused And Said See You In Court' Can't Wait For That Date. I Have Info That Will Make The Bank Look Stupid In Front Of The Judge.

 

They Now Have About 23 Days Or So To Respond To Me With The Full 5000' Or It's Court, For Definite, I Have Followed The Correct Guidlines As Set Out By Martin, And Lots Of Good People On These Post. Thank You To All Of You' Who Unknowingly Have Helped Me Thus Far.

 

Ps Just To Add They Are Defending This Case,,, But Yet They Offered Me An Out Of Court Settlement Of A Derisery £200. Only' Well Y-bank Be Nice To See You In Court, I Have Made An Application For The Bank To Disclose The Actual Charges It Cost Them, And Not What They Have Charged Us.

 

I Am So Fired Up Now, That I Am Ready For Them And Their Perry Mason Stand In'''' Please Wish Me Luck. I Will Post Again If Anything Transpires In The Meantime.

 

Finally I Really Do Appreciate The Help I Have Got From This Site And All The Confidence To Follow My Claim Through, Even Though I Am Registered Disabled, I Will Be There' Rest Assured,, Thats Confidence' Not Cockyness''

 

Goodluck To All And Keep Fighting The Good Fight, I Know Lots Of People Are Watching My Case Very Closely.

 

Kindest Regards Rob'' The Warrior'' Lol

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Hope you have taken the victory to hull to heart

also learn from my mistakes

As long as you know what to say and when to say it, you have it all sorted

hope to hear good news in 23 days :D

 

ps better to ask questions now rather than in 24 days - trust me on that one!!

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Hi Kevboy'' over the months I have asked loads of questions in writing to make sure i got evidence in reply's. It has got to the point now that I have run out of things to say to Y- Bank' thats until I see them in court,

 

will keep all informed of any thing that might happen.

 

Cheers Rob

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:D Great' Fantastic' Brilliant' News For All;

hi To Everyone On This Board I Have Been To Court This Moring -grimethorpe V Yorkshire Bank'

their Solocitor Never Showed Up The District Judge Then Made Me The Full Judgement Of £7.250.

 

i Was Only In With The District Judge 60 Seconds She Asked Me One Question ' How Had I Worked Worked Out What The Bank Owed Me.

 

i Told Her I Had Gone Back The 6 Years And Added Interest.

 

she Then Looked At Me And Said I Award You The Full Judgement. You Will Recieve It In The Next 14 Days From The Bank.

 

So Keep At Em Good People'

 

All The Very Best Rob.

Ps I Want To Thank All The Board Members And Especially Mr Martin Lewis. Thank You All So Very Much. Rob

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Business as usual then, despite the fact that Clydesdale are one of the banks involved in the court case.

 

Congratulations!

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;) ;) ;):-D WELL DONE GRIMETHORPE, I read about the High Court Case going ahead, and that the banks have been given the go-ahead to put all cases on hold till after the decision, this is Really UNFAIR once again to the customers as at least half the cases waiting to go to court should HAVE BEEN SETTLED by now , it is only the Banks complete disregard for the British Judicial System, and their stalling antics that have kept them from settlement.

I myself think that all cases that have passed the N1 stage should be allowed to go ahead on this very basis alone, if this is not allowed then I myself think that the banks should be made to do the same with the charges, ie , not allowed to issue charges UNTIL AFTER THE CASE, do unto them what they do to you.

I did wonder if the same would apply to the cases where the charges have been taken from "Benefits" as this Should not have been done under the "Social Security Administrations Act 1992" section 187, benefit as defined in section 122 of the "Contributions and Benefits Act;.

Surely these cases should still be allowed to go ahead as the I in my opinion think the banks have once again turned a blind eye to the legislation in place and just gone ahead with the action to further their own greed.

Junkimunki xx:)

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No cases in court are affected at the moment JunkiMunki. It's only the claims through FOS that are affected. It will be for the courts to decide about cases there, and that is outside the control of the OFT, FOS or the banks.

 

If any cases get stayed later pending this test case, application can be made to set it aside so they can continue.

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hi Junki

read Your Post With Interest, As Far As I Can Accertain From The Govnerment Information Is'' That Any Case Already Ongoing Even Those Banks Included In The Oft -banks Case At The High Court,

 

these Ongoing Cases That Have Court Dates Can Be Continued And The Judge On Duty Can Make The Judgement Against The Banks. As My Judge Did Today.

 

so The Advice Is Keep Going Through With Your Case And Follow Each Step As You Should Do And Let The Judge Decided On The Day.

 

make Sure You Keep All Your Paperwork From Bank And The Paperwork You Have Sent To Them As Evidence.

 

finally Good Luck Mate With Your Claim, And If I Were You I Would Change My Bank So The Benefits Are Not Affected By The Banks.

 

cheers Rob

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Hi Caro,

Thanks for that bit of info, really pleased to hear that , I am hoping to follow in Grimethorpe footsteps, though not as much dosh as that but , good luck to him , afterall it is HIS money he has claimed back, and if the Banks had not been so greedy they would not be facing this eruption now.

thanks again ;) junkimunki xx

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Congratulations. :) :)

 

This is my first ever posting on this site & its great to hear such fantastic news after last week!

 

I have today received my General Form of Judgement asking for my Bundle.

 

Not only am I against the bank but I also live in Hull!!! :confused:

 

But your case has given me great hope.

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Brill bob news, I can feel it in my water.TODAY IS GOING TO BE A GOOD DAY.

 

And I have got my a refund from woolworths for my phone this morning as well, skips out of thread humming a happy tune!

 

:lol: PERHAPS YOU CAN NOW RING ME SEEING AS YOU GOT THE PHONE MONEY BACK LOL. WELL DONE. I SEE EVERY DAY AS A GOOD DAY ESPECIALLY IF I WAKE UP IN THE MORNINGS !!!!! REMEMBER KEEP AT EM' IT CAN BE DONE. SHOULD GET MY MONEY FROM BANK ANY DAY NOW' :D GOODLUCK TO ALL AND KEEP POSTING. CHEERS ROB ;)

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